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<p>[QUOTE="Vess1, post: 3362949, member: 13650"]I was gonna say I wouldn't call it a mess but as I was typing.... I came to agree with you. It is a mess. The only way to view it is to search for an item and then go up to the top and click on sort. Sort either by lowest to highest price or highest to lowest. Then you can usually scroll through a page of moon money coins to get to the decent quality, "common man" stuff that'll be nicer than the next 15 pages.</p><p><br /></p><p> There are many, many intricacies that go into pricing on some coins. CAC stickers inflate everything. To me, having ebay, you have a 24/7/365 global yard sale at your finger tips that you can scroll through in your PJs. Most stuff I want can ONLY be found on there. There's almost no point for me to go to the local shows anymore because it's highly unlikely what I want is there. Maybe 1 or 2 examples if lucky.... </p><p><br /></p><p> This doesn't mean that everybody knows how to price things on ebay or that it's all quality stuff either. Even graded stuff. Once you look at thousands and thousands of coins over a period of years, eventually you notice everything and it takes a lot more to impress you. You start to realize how much junk is actually thrown on ebay. I saw a dime that somebody wanted $500 for that shouldve been melted decades ago. It was garbage. </p><p><br /></p><p> There are many problem coins in slabs with clean grades. Many coins have been in slabs a long time and improperly stored. Some silver coins have developed black spots that can turn a clean mint state grade into a coin nobody wants and nobody wants to send to NCS to get cleaned up due to cost. </p><p> I've been seeking a specific coin for a while and I went to a local dealer to try there. They had two examples. Most people feel NGCs price guide is "way too high. Well, the dealer was asking north of NGCs price guide on both examples. One had black spots on obverse. The other wasn't that attractive but got a CAC sticker so it was priced well above NGC's price guide. Most like to acquire coins at least somewhat below the online prices guides if not well below. Well, let me tell you. Depending on what you're looking for that may or may not work. On ebay there's a $200 spread for the same coin in the same grade I've been looking at and most are right around NGC's list price. They're also higher quality. One is $100 below and it's nice. But I had to look at pages of them to find that one.</p><p><br /></p><p> IMO, every coin collector should be banned from ebay for a period of 5 to 10 years. Then if they're still interested and they've been around the block a few times, THEN go to ebay and see what you think. There's quality stuff mixed in with a bunch of junk and if you can't weed it out, you're gonna get screwed. And that's just graded material. If you're only looking at loose coins, then it really becomes a mine field. You better be able to identify cleaned coins because most are! Or they've been re-toned to hide cleaning. OR they're fake to begin with.</p><p><br /></p><p> If you're just dinkin around purchasing $5 to $10 coins to enjoy, go for it. If you're looking to work on something higher end and looking to drop serious cash, then knowledge and experience matters. You can't obtain this over night. Even seasoned collectors get stung once in a while. </p><p><br /></p><p> Ebay can be used if you know what you're doing or are just casually collecting.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="Vess1, post: 3362949, member: 13650"]I was gonna say I wouldn't call it a mess but as I was typing.... I came to agree with you. It is a mess. The only way to view it is to search for an item and then go up to the top and click on sort. Sort either by lowest to highest price or highest to lowest. Then you can usually scroll through a page of moon money coins to get to the decent quality, "common man" stuff that'll be nicer than the next 15 pages. There are many, many intricacies that go into pricing on some coins. CAC stickers inflate everything. To me, having ebay, you have a 24/7/365 global yard sale at your finger tips that you can scroll through in your PJs. Most stuff I want can ONLY be found on there. There's almost no point for me to go to the local shows anymore because it's highly unlikely what I want is there. Maybe 1 or 2 examples if lucky.... This doesn't mean that everybody knows how to price things on ebay or that it's all quality stuff either. Even graded stuff. Once you look at thousands and thousands of coins over a period of years, eventually you notice everything and it takes a lot more to impress you. You start to realize how much junk is actually thrown on ebay. I saw a dime that somebody wanted $500 for that shouldve been melted decades ago. It was garbage. There are many problem coins in slabs with clean grades. Many coins have been in slabs a long time and improperly stored. Some silver coins have developed black spots that can turn a clean mint state grade into a coin nobody wants and nobody wants to send to NCS to get cleaned up due to cost. I've been seeking a specific coin for a while and I went to a local dealer to try there. They had two examples. Most people feel NGCs price guide is "way too high. Well, the dealer was asking north of NGCs price guide on both examples. One had black spots on obverse. The other wasn't that attractive but got a CAC sticker so it was priced well above NGC's price guide. Most like to acquire coins at least somewhat below the online prices guides if not well below. Well, let me tell you. Depending on what you're looking for that may or may not work. On ebay there's a $200 spread for the same coin in the same grade I've been looking at and most are right around NGC's list price. They're also higher quality. One is $100 below and it's nice. But I had to look at pages of them to find that one. IMO, every coin collector should be banned from ebay for a period of 5 to 10 years. Then if they're still interested and they've been around the block a few times, THEN go to ebay and see what you think. There's quality stuff mixed in with a bunch of junk and if you can't weed it out, you're gonna get screwed. And that's just graded material. If you're only looking at loose coins, then it really becomes a mine field. You better be able to identify cleaned coins because most are! Or they've been re-toned to hide cleaning. OR they're fake to begin with. If you're just dinkin around purchasing $5 to $10 coins to enjoy, go for it. If you're looking to work on something higher end and looking to drop serious cash, then knowledge and experience matters. You can't obtain this over night. Even seasoned collectors get stung once in a while. Ebay can be used if you know what you're doing or are just casually collecting.[/QUOTE]
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