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<p>[QUOTE=&quot;chrisild, post: 2879166, member: 39&quot;]True, I do not collect what you collect. What you call &quot;completely out of touch&quot; was a suggestion for coins that already are in one&#039;s collection . Yes, I know that the ACCG also says &quot;It is ... unreasonable to assume that a coin is &#039;stolen,&#039; &#039;illegally exported,&#039; or &#039;illegally imported&#039; when full documentation of the coin&#039;s pedigree isn&#039;t available.&quot; (<a href="http://www.numismaticnews.net/article/undocumented-coins-at-risk" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="http://www.numismaticnews.net/article/undocumented-coins-at-risk" rel="nofollow">article</a> from 2011)</p><p><br /></p><p>But you may also know that what US Customs did in that case faces collectors of ancient (or rather &quot;non-modern&quot;) coins elsewhere too. Take the case of Alexander Krombach vs the state of Hesse which went on for more than two years. 800+ coins were confiscated because Krombach had, in 2005, purchased five Roman coins (total value about €5) on eBay. Ultimately a court decided that Krombach is the rightful owner and he got his coins back. Something similar even happened to a police officer in Bavaria. Such lawsuits usually end with the collector getting his coins back, but they cost patience and money that not everybody has ...</p><p><br /></p><p>So we do have a consensus among legal experts here in Germany that (and you may well add &quot;of course&quot; here) not every coin has to come with a pedigree. On the other hand, these days many collectors take good photos of their coins anyway - see the Coin Talk posts with excellent photos. Somehow documenting that this and that piece has been in your collection since that time makes sense to me, even if it is primarily for insurance or bragging purposes. With newly purchased coins it depends in my opinion; there are ancient coins that are common as dirt, and extremely rare pieces.</p><p><br /></p><p>About a year ago, Nathan Elkins made a few suggestions regarding what he thinks could be &quot;ethical collecting&quot; here: <a href="http://www.coinsweekly.com/en/Building-a-Bridge-between-Ancient-Coin-Collecting-and-Good-Ethical-Practice/4?&amp;id=4354" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="http://www.coinsweekly.com/en/Building-a-Bridge-between-Ancient-Coin-Collecting-and-Good-Ethical-Practice/4?&amp;id=4354" rel="nofollow">http://www.coinsweekly.com/en/Building-a-Bridge-between-Ancient-Coin-Collecting-and-Good-Ethical-Practice/4?&amp;id=4354</a> Yes, I know that ACCG members tend to &quot;love&quot; Elkins <img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie2" alt=";)" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" />&nbsp; But I do not think that it is unreasonable to expect from dealers here that they comply with the law ...</p><p><br /></p><p>Christian[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>

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