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<p>[QUOTE="GDJMSP, post: 2848716, member: 112"]Your comment brings to mind a recurring theme that is quite often seen on all of the forums. That theme is that a great many collectors feel that if a TPG says it, then whatever it is that they said, it must be right. But only when the TPG's opinion happens to match that of the individual. </p><p><br /></p><p>And I'm not picking on you personally here CBD, your comment merely serves as an example of what I'm talking about.</p><p><br /></p><p>So what does one do when 1 TPG says something they don't agree with ? First course of action is usually look for another TPG and get their opinion. And if it doesn't work that time, well send it in again and see if they'll change their mind.</p><p><br /></p><p>This sort of thing happens over and over and over again, and has for a great many years. And it involves pretty much the whole spectrum - grades, attribution, problem coins, special designations etc. About the only thing there is never any argument about is authenticity, but even that comes into question from time to time.</p><p><br /></p><p>So what's wrong with this concept ? The first thing that comes to my mind is what do you when the same TPG changes their mind ? Who's right then ? I mean ya can't be right both times, or three times even - one or more of their determinations has to be wrong. But for some reason that part of it always seems to just get ignored. Not forgotten about, just completely ignored as if it never even happened.</p><p><br /></p><p>However it does happen, and it happens ALL - THE - TIME !</p><p><br /></p><p>Why is this whole idea important ? Several reasons really. For one it is often the thing that determines which TPG an individual will use. And it's almost always whichever one happens to agree with their own opinions the most. It's as if the individual doesn't really want a so called "expert" opinion, to know what the coin is or is not - they just want somebody to agree to them, whoever that somebody happens to be.</p><p><br /></p><p>And it's also important because if they're wrong about this, then how sure can you be that they are right about that ? Just think about that, and what it means to you as an individual, what impact it could have on you as an individual.</p><p><br /></p><p>If you sat 10 experts down, experts on any given subject but all of them experts on the same subject, and asked their opinion about something, and the answers you got back resulted in 4 different opinions - which one of these experts or group of experts would you listen to ? Who would be right ? And who would be wrong ? </p><p><br /></p><p>Well that's what ya do when you send coins in to a TPG, and then send them in to another TPG, and then send them in yet again. On the first try it might be 3 people grading the coin, on the 2nd it might be 4, and on the 3rd it might be 3 or 4 different ones, or even the same 3 or 4 as the 2nd time. But if you get a different answer back each time - then who's right ?</p><p><br /></p><p>Bottom line, the only possible conclusion that one can come up with involving this scenario is that just because a TPG says it - that doesn't mean they are right. And it doesn't matter how much you want them to be.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="GDJMSP, post: 2848716, member: 112"]Your comment brings to mind a recurring theme that is quite often seen on all of the forums. That theme is that a great many collectors feel that if a TPG says it, then whatever it is that they said, it must be right. But only when the TPG's opinion happens to match that of the individual. And I'm not picking on you personally here CBD, your comment merely serves as an example of what I'm talking about. So what does one do when 1 TPG says something they don't agree with ? First course of action is usually look for another TPG and get their opinion. And if it doesn't work that time, well send it in again and see if they'll change their mind. This sort of thing happens over and over and over again, and has for a great many years. And it involves pretty much the whole spectrum - grades, attribution, problem coins, special designations etc. About the only thing there is never any argument about is authenticity, but even that comes into question from time to time. So what's wrong with this concept ? The first thing that comes to my mind is what do you when the same TPG changes their mind ? Who's right then ? I mean ya can't be right both times, or three times even - one or more of their determinations has to be wrong. But for some reason that part of it always seems to just get ignored. Not forgotten about, just completely ignored as if it never even happened. However it does happen, and it happens ALL - THE - TIME ! Why is this whole idea important ? Several reasons really. For one it is often the thing that determines which TPG an individual will use. And it's almost always whichever one happens to agree with their own opinions the most. It's as if the individual doesn't really want a so called "expert" opinion, to know what the coin is or is not - they just want somebody to agree to them, whoever that somebody happens to be. And it's also important because if they're wrong about this, then how sure can you be that they are right about that ? Just think about that, and what it means to you as an individual, what impact it could have on you as an individual. If you sat 10 experts down, experts on any given subject but all of them experts on the same subject, and asked their opinion about something, and the answers you got back resulted in 4 different opinions - which one of these experts or group of experts would you listen to ? Who would be right ? And who would be wrong ? Well that's what ya do when you send coins in to a TPG, and then send them in to another TPG, and then send them in yet again. On the first try it might be 3 people grading the coin, on the 2nd it might be 4, and on the 3rd it might be 3 or 4 different ones, or even the same 3 or 4 as the 2nd time. But if you get a different answer back each time - then who's right ? Bottom line, the only possible conclusion that one can come up with involving this scenario is that just because a TPG says it - that doesn't mean they are right. And it doesn't matter how much you want them to be.[/QUOTE]
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