IOVIAN AE1 Double Maiorinae

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  1. seth77

    seth77 Well-Known Member

    I like these large and chunky LRBs and although they are rather scarce and under-studied, somehow they don't get too much interest from collectors and numismatists. Why would that be?
    This one I just got today in a swap with a fellow Coin Talk colleague:


    IOVIAN AE1 27mm 8.3g Double Maiorina (aVF)

    AV: DN IOVIANVS PF PP AVG; rosette diademed, draped and cuirassed bust right.

    REV: VICTORIA ROMANORVM; Emperor standing facing, head right, holding Victory on globe and labarum.

    EXE: TESgamma, Thessalonika mint.

    REF: RIC VIII Thessalonika 235, Scarce, June 363 - Feb. 364AD.

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    Coin comes with info from a Vcoins dealer called rusty Romans that I don't seem to locate anymore.

    Because these are largely under-studied, there's no surprise that some are unlisted, although recorded in sales and auctions. Here are 2 examples:


    IOVIAN AE1 28mm 8.74g Double-Maiorina (VF, patina)

    AV: D N IOVIANV - S PF PP AVG, laurel and rosette-diademed, draped and cuirassed bust r.

    REV: VICTORIA ROMANORVM, Jovian standing facing, head right, holding labarum & Victory on globe.

    EXE: ·TESgamma· Thessalonika mint.

    REF: RIC VIII Thessalonika 238var. unlisted officina gamma (RIC only lists officinae A and delta), but not unknown (various examples sold by Gorny & Mosch Giessener Munzhandlung: here, here etc.) Scarce. 27jun. 363 - 16feb. 364AD.

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    And:


    IOVIAN AE1 32mm 7.63g Double-Maiorina (aVF, patina, scratches)

    AV: DN IOVIAN-VS PF AVG; laurel and rosette-diademed, draped and curiassed bust r.

    REV: VICTORIA ROMANORVM, emperor standing front, head right, holding labarum in right and Victory on globe in left

    EXE: CONSPgamma, Constantinople mint.

    REF: cf. RIC IX Constantinople 177var, rated R, unlisted for officina gamma, june 363 - feb. 364AD.

    A large and rather scarce issue, from an unlisted, but rather well recorded officina.

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  3. Mikey Zee

    Mikey Zee Delenda Est Carthago

    Seth, wonderful examples!!! Especially, IMHO, the first---it has so much irresistible character to it.

    Somehow, I accumulated three A-3's of Jovian, each with a wreath reverse and all presumably minted at Heraclea---here's one:

    D N IOVIAN VS PF AVG Pearl Diademed, draped, cuirassed bust left
    VOT V in two lines within wreath, Heraclea in exergue

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  4. chrsmat71

    chrsmat71 I LIKE TURTLES!

    i'd like to get one of those big jovian coins, it's on the list. they tend to be a bit pricey, so not at the top of the list currently. i have a couple of vot/wreath coins from him, one is currently being cleaned up...here is another.

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    same surprised eyes as MZ's coin!
     
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  5. maridvnvm

    maridvnvm Well-Known Member

    Rusty Romans was a website specialising in supplying uncleaned coins and cleaning supplies and also a VCoins store run by Jerome Holderman. I haven't heard from Jerome for a couple of years.
     
  6. seth77

    seth77 Well-Known Member

    Yes, I remember Mr. Holderman from FORVM. I think I also bought from him 9-10yrs ago when I was interested in uncleaneds. Hope he's alright.
     
  7. John Anthony

    John Anthony Ultracrepidarian

    Great examples Seth! Rusty Romans also sold "nice" coins, ie. cleaned. I have a few in my collection from days past.
     
  8. stevex6

    stevex6 Random Mayhem

    Wow seth, that's a very cool new score ... yummy

    I happen to have one example of that dude (wanna see?) ...

    JOVIAN Æ1 - VICTORIAE ROMANORVM
    363-364 AD
    Diameter: 27mm
    Weight: 8.25 grams
    Obverse: D N IOVIANV-S P F P P AVG, diademed, draped & cuirassed bust right
    Reverse: VICTORIAE ROMANORVM, Jovian standing facing, head right, holding labarum & Victory on globe
    Reference: TESG in ex. RIC 235


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    => hey, we're coin-bros!!


    :woot:
     
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  9. John Anthony

    John Anthony Ultracrepidarian

    Do you have EVERY coin Steve? o_O
     
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  10. stevex6

    stevex6 Random Mayhem

    => after tonight, my friend!!

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    :woot:

     
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  11. seth77

    seth77 Well-Known Member

    Excellent, Steve, when I'm at a computer I'll try to figure whther our coins are die matches : )
     
  12. stevex6

    stevex6 Random Mayhem

    => well, my wonky-eye is telling me that they aren't exactly die matches, but we're probably still related on the hillbilly-side of our family ...

    cheers, brother seth

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  13. seth77

    seth77 Well-Known Member

    You're right, no die match but very nice coin, in a better condition than mine.
     
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  14. stevex6

    stevex6 Random Mayhem

    Both coins are sweet, my friend

    :rolleyes::rolleyes:
     
  15. dougsmit

    dougsmit Member

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    ...another but this from Antioch ANTB.
     
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  16. seth77

    seth77 Well-Known Member

    Has anyone else noticed that while his normal AE3's usually have the generic pearl-diadem, his AE1's usually have this more ornate diadem, both laureate and with rosettes? Would that be just because larger dies means more space for detail or could that also have a meaning behind it?
     
  17. Cucumbor

    Cucumbor Well-Known Member

    I really like those EA1 from the late empire
    So far I have one for each of Magnentius, Julian II, Jovian, Valentinian I and Valens. For some reason I find the Jovian one the most attractive :

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    Jovianus, AE 1 Antioch mint, 3 rd officina
    D N IOVIAN VS P F AVG, Diademed, draped and cuirassed bust of Jovianus right
    VICTORIA ROMANORVM, Jovianus standing, holding victory on a globe and labarum, ANT gamma at exergue
    8.46 gr
    Ref : RIC # 228, Cohen #22, RC #4085, LRBC #2645

    Q
     
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  18. Mikey Zee

    Mikey Zee Delenda Est Carthago

    'Q', as usual, a really gorgeous coin!!!
     
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  19. stevex6

    stevex6 Random Mayhem

    Yup => Q rocks!!
     
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  20. John Anthony

    John Anthony Ultracrepidarian

    Let's see them all!
     
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  21. Cucumbor

    Cucumbor Well-Known Member

    Well JA, YOU asked :

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    Magnentius, AE 1 Amiens mint, AD 353,
    D N MAGNEN TIVS P F AVG, Draped bust of Magnentius right
    SALVS DD NN AVG ET CAES, Large christogram between alpha and omega. AMB at exergue
    9.20 gr
    Ref : Cohen #30, LRBC #19, Bastien # 135 (15 ex), RIC # 34 (C)


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    Julian II, AE 1 Antioch mint, 3 rd officina
    D N FL CL IVLI ANVS P F AVG, Diademed, draped and cuirassed bust of Julianus right
    SECURITAS REIPUB, Bull to right, two stars above. ANT gamma between two branches at exergue
    8.73 gr
    Ref : Cohen #38, RC #4072, LRBC #2641


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    Jovianus, AE 1 Antioch mint, 3 rd officina
    D N IOVIAN VS P F AVG, Diademed, draped and cuirassed bust of Jovianus right
    VICTORIA ROMANORVM, Jovianus standing, holding victory on a globe and labarum, ANT gamma at exergue
    8.46 gr
    Ref : RIC # 228, Cohen #22, RC #4085, LRBC #2645


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    Valentinian I, AE1 Cyzicus mint, 1st officina
    D N VALENTINI ANVS P F AVG, diademed, draped and cuirassed bust right
    RESTITVTOR REIPUBLICAE, Valentinian standing left, head right, holding standard and vicotry on globe. SMKA at exergue
    9.66 gr
    Ref : Cohen # 30, LRBC # 2514


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    Valens, AE1 Aquilea mint, AD 364
    DN VALEN - S PF AVG, diademed, draped and cuirassed bust right
    RESTITVTOR REIPVBLICAE, Valens standing facing, head right, holding standard and victory. SMAQP at exergue
    8.55 gr
    Ref : Cohen # 40 (100Fr), RIC #6b


    As a side note, Valens is a tough one to find in good condition, and that one is very difficult to take pictures of, because of it's patina. I swear it's far better in hand

    Q
     
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