Log in or Sign up
Coin Talk
Home
Forums
>
Coin Forums
>
Coin Chat
>
Investing in gold numismatic coins
>
Reply to Thread
Message:
<p>[QUOTE="World Colonial, post: 2463201, member: 78153"]Coin prices have been a beneficiary of the greatest asset, credit and debt mania in the history of civilization. In other words, the one which exists now and has since at least 1994 when "lift off" occurred. I expect many (if not most) others believe otherwise, but I rate the chances of any similar performance at near zero.</p><p><br /></p><p>Outside of bullion substitutes, coins are actually luxury collectible trinkets. And as a luxury item, they are susceptible to losing value because most people are worse off now and have been since at least 1999. This is the first reason I believe most coins will lose value because I have zero doubt that most people will be worse off for the indefinite future and this includes most collectors.</p><p><br /></p><p>Second, I'd be interested to know the coins this author bought. My guess is that if I saw his list, I'd probably conclude they were both NOT rare and overpriced for their merits. And where they are actually rare or at least scarce, still primarily the beneficiary of the prior rising trend in the general market at the time.</p><p><br /></p><p>There are a very low percentage of coins which are (in theory) immune from the adverse economic circumstances almost certainly impacting the majority of the collector base. (Those I call "ultra elite" or near it.)However, this doesn't apply to the vast majority of coins most coin "investors" are likely to buy both because they cannot afford them but also because they aren't really that compelling for what they are worth.</p><p><br /></p><p>Unless the future collector base is (a lot) more affluent than the current one or existing (affluent) collectors allocate a (much) higher percentage of their assets to coins, there is a much better reason to believe that most coins will be losing value, rare or not. The primary exception I see is bullion substitute "investment" coins such as US generic gold and maybe some Morgan dollars since I expect higher metal prices years or decades from now versus today.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="World Colonial, post: 2463201, member: 78153"]Coin prices have been a beneficiary of the greatest asset, credit and debt mania in the history of civilization. In other words, the one which exists now and has since at least 1994 when "lift off" occurred. I expect many (if not most) others believe otherwise, but I rate the chances of any similar performance at near zero. Outside of bullion substitutes, coins are actually luxury collectible trinkets. And as a luxury item, they are susceptible to losing value because most people are worse off now and have been since at least 1999. This is the first reason I believe most coins will lose value because I have zero doubt that most people will be worse off for the indefinite future and this includes most collectors. Second, I'd be interested to know the coins this author bought. My guess is that if I saw his list, I'd probably conclude they were both NOT rare and overpriced for their merits. And where they are actually rare or at least scarce, still primarily the beneficiary of the prior rising trend in the general market at the time. There are a very low percentage of coins which are (in theory) immune from the adverse economic circumstances almost certainly impacting the majority of the collector base. (Those I call "ultra elite" or near it.)However, this doesn't apply to the vast majority of coins most coin "investors" are likely to buy both because they cannot afford them but also because they aren't really that compelling for what they are worth. Unless the future collector base is (a lot) more affluent than the current one or existing (affluent) collectors allocate a (much) higher percentage of their assets to coins, there is a much better reason to believe that most coins will be losing value, rare or not. The primary exception I see is bullion substitute "investment" coins such as US generic gold and maybe some Morgan dollars since I expect higher metal prices years or decades from now versus today.[/QUOTE]
Your name or email address:
Do you already have an account?
No, create an account now.
Yes, my password is:
Forgot your password?
Stay logged in
Coin Talk
Home
Forums
>
Coin Forums
>
Coin Chat
>
Investing in gold numismatic coins
>
Home
Home
Quick Links
Search Forums
Recent Activity
Recent Posts
Forums
Forums
Quick Links
Search Forums
Recent Posts
Competitions
Competitions
Quick Links
Competition Index
Rules, Terms & Conditions
Gallery
Gallery
Quick Links
Search Media
New Media
Showcase
Showcase
Quick Links
Search Items
Most Active Members
New Items
Directory
Directory
Quick Links
Directory Home
New Listings
Members
Members
Quick Links
Notable Members
Current Visitors
Recent Activity
New Profile Posts
Sponsors
Menu
Search
Search titles only
Posted by Member:
Separate names with a comma.
Newer Than:
Search this thread only
Search this forum only
Display results as threads
Useful Searches
Recent Posts
More...