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<p>[QUOTE="dougsmit, post: 3673456, member: 19463"]Good overview as far as I see on a skim. This is what is needed not only here but for several other areas of possible interest to beginners. I have two kinds of Byzantine coins, those I show here all the time and those not worth showing here ever. You get my favorites again and again.</p><p><br /></p><p>Quoting from the site:</p><p><img src="http://augustuscoins.com/ed/Byz/SB2564JohnVIIIstavraton9250.jpg" class="bbCodeImage wysiwygImage" alt="" unselectable="on" />John VIII, 1423-1448.</p><p>Stavraton = 1/2 hyperpyron. 24-22 mm. 6.73 grams.</p><p>Again Christ is on the obverse. This time the revere has two concentric lines of legend, most of which are usually illegible or flat-struck like this one. The name would be from 1:00 to 2:00, but is not legible here. <span style="color: #ff0000">Finding one with a legible name would significantly increase the price.</span></p><p><br /></p><p>Sear 2564.</p><p><br /></p><p>Silver coins of this quality are quite available.</p><p> </p><p>Mine has the IWHN from 1:00 to 2:00 and struck me as a deal when I bought it from CNG in 1990. There are two opinions on the obverse/reverse matter. Some will say that Christ is the more important so is on the obverse no matter what. Others would look at the metal curled up on the Christ side and say that it suggests that side was the upper die and upper dies are the reverses. I do love the I on my coin since it proves beyond any doubt that the coin is not a KW Constantine XI. Of course we all know that being in my collection is equally valid proof. The best of the KW coins are rarely semi-legible and sell fro great sums. If I had one, I'd sell it.</p><p>[ATTACH=full]987070[/ATTACH]</p><p><br /></p><p>Randy A. showed a lovely Christ portrait Anonymous bronze with all the facial features intact. I'll show the same coin with no nose but better legends on both sides. Either is not easy to find; both on the same coin is something special - really special. My answer here is to own several coins which add up to full detail. Those who want all on one flan will pay. [ATTACH=full]987080[/ATTACH]</p><p><br /></p><p>This one illustrates the fact that many Byzantine coins are struck on older coins. There are some issues that are scarce with absolutely no trace of an undertype. Personally I prefer the wild and crazy jumbled messes with a strong preference for coins that can be fully identified from both strikes. Often it helps to photograph a coin twice placing the top of the undertype on top of the second. </p><p>Heraculus year 6 shop 5 Constantinople / Justin II year 5 shop 5 Constantinople</p><p>[ATTACH=full]987083[/ATTACH]</p><p><br /></p><p>Byzantines are a good area for finding favorites that many others would not appreciate. I believe that condition is not as important as interest on most coins but on Byzantine:</p><p><br /></p><p>I hope you all will buy only the EF perfection and gold beauties. Leave the wild bronzes for me.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="dougsmit, post: 3673456, member: 19463"]Good overview as far as I see on a skim. This is what is needed not only here but for several other areas of possible interest to beginners. I have two kinds of Byzantine coins, those I show here all the time and those not worth showing here ever. You get my favorites again and again. Quoting from the site: [IMG]http://augustuscoins.com/ed/Byz/SB2564JohnVIIIstavraton9250.jpg[/IMG]John VIII, 1423-1448. Stavraton = 1/2 hyperpyron. 24-22 mm. 6.73 grams. Again Christ is on the obverse. This time the revere has two concentric lines of legend, most of which are usually illegible or flat-struck like this one. The name would be from 1:00 to 2:00, but is not legible here. [COLOR=#ff0000]Finding one with a legible name would significantly increase the price.[/COLOR] Sear 2564. Silver coins of this quality are quite available. Mine has the IWHN from 1:00 to 2:00 and struck me as a deal when I bought it from CNG in 1990. There are two opinions on the obverse/reverse matter. Some will say that Christ is the more important so is on the obverse no matter what. Others would look at the metal curled up on the Christ side and say that it suggests that side was the upper die and upper dies are the reverses. I do love the I on my coin since it proves beyond any doubt that the coin is not a KW Constantine XI. Of course we all know that being in my collection is equally valid proof. The best of the KW coins are rarely semi-legible and sell fro great sums. If I had one, I'd sell it. [ATTACH=full]987070[/ATTACH] Randy A. showed a lovely Christ portrait Anonymous bronze with all the facial features intact. I'll show the same coin with no nose but better legends on both sides. Either is not easy to find; both on the same coin is something special - really special. My answer here is to own several coins which add up to full detail. Those who want all on one flan will pay. [ATTACH=full]987080[/ATTACH] This one illustrates the fact that many Byzantine coins are struck on older coins. There are some issues that are scarce with absolutely no trace of an undertype. Personally I prefer the wild and crazy jumbled messes with a strong preference for coins that can be fully identified from both strikes. Often it helps to photograph a coin twice placing the top of the undertype on top of the second. Heraculus year 6 shop 5 Constantinople / Justin II year 5 shop 5 Constantinople [ATTACH=full]987083[/ATTACH] Byzantines are a good area for finding favorites that many others would not appreciate. I believe that condition is not as important as interest on most coins but on Byzantine: I hope you all will buy only the EF perfection and gold beauties. Leave the wild bronzes for me.[/QUOTE]
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