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Message:: [QUOTE="Jack D. Young, post: 8232183, member: 93371"]Working on a new research project starting with a couple of "not genuine" examples! The 1st images are of a pair of uniface casts attributed to Peter Rosa and sold in a 2012 Stack's auction, described as "Copper-Plated Lead Impressions. Uncirculated. Subdued peach-copper mint "color" on the plated sides, the reverses show minor handling marks and impressions of the implement into which each planchet was squeezed". [ATTACH=full]1447462[/ATTACH] Details I took notice of are the centered "strike" and heavy distinct dentals. In addition is a defect to the right of the "E" of UTILE and a rather defective looking "E" in AMERICANA- I nicknamed it the broken E and haven't seen it on any genuine examples, although I am told this is attributed as a 1723 Martin 2.7-Eb.3. I have included an image of a genuine one as a comparison. I understand any indication of "mint red" color is unusual on genuine Rosa Americana Pennies... [ATTACH=full]1447463[/ATTACH] Genuine NGC graded AU 55 image courtesy Heritage Auctions; there is a different defect on the "E" of UTILE and the "E" of AMERICANA is complete: [ATTACH=full]1447464[/ATTACH] Both show the "double cut A" of GRATIA as seen on this variety. The next example is one I purchased through an internet site associated with Peter Rosa. [ATTACH=full]1447465[/ATTACH] It has the same centering and deep dentals as well as the defect to the right of "E" and the "broken E" as the uniface examples. This one is described as "copper plated lead free fine pewter" with a diameter of 26mm; I measured the weight as 112.7 grains. I am curious what the source coin may have been and if anyone has seen a genuine example with a similar "broken E"? More to come<img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie8" alt=":D" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" />... Thanks, Jack.[/QUOTE]

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