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<p>[QUOTE="Jack D. Young, post: 8236443, member: 93371"]In Part I, reference <a href="https://www.cointalk.com/threads/interesting-replica-1723-peter-rosa-rosa-americana-penny-part-i.393605/#post-8235366" class="internalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://www.cointalk.com/threads/interesting-replica-1723-peter-rosa-rosa-americana-penny-part-i.393605/#post-8235366">https://www.cointalk.com/threads/interesting-replica-1723-peter-rosa-rosa-americana-penny-part-i.393605/#post-8235366</a></p><p><br /></p><p>I showed 2 examples attributed to Peter Rosa and associates, and displayed a feature I believe diagnostic for any example, the "broken ER".</p><p><br /></p><p>[ATTACH=full]1449054[/ATTACH]</p><p> Discussion example Genuine Example courtesy HA.com</p><p><br /></p><p>From further discussions I believe this feature is a result of strike bifurcation, similar to my 1794 large cent, where the strike(s) caused the metal to flow outward creating a larger than normal diameter and weak, not filled out legends and date.</p><p><br /></p><p>[ATTACH=full]1449064[/ATTACH]</p><p><br /></p><p>I am told in Syd Martin's book (an expert on the series) he stated only 1 known die state for this variety, the "perfect dies".</p><p><br /></p><p>So, not a die state, but a die strike characteristic of the source example or model, "die" linking the examples in this discussion...</p><p><br /></p><p>So, for part II I am displaying a 3rd example- this one described as being in a major collection and a "copper plated lead cast" (weight at 143.4 grains).</p><p><br /></p><p>[ATTACH=full]1449065[/ATTACH] </p><p>Basically the same centering and dentillation as the other two but a major difference is the "blobs" of excess material, an unintended byproduct of the casting process.</p><p><br /></p><p>[ATTACH=full]1449067[/ATTACH]</p><p><br /></p><p>Now looking for the genuine source example<img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie8" alt=":D" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" />...[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="Jack D. Young, post: 8236443, member: 93371"]In Part I, reference [URL]https://www.cointalk.com/threads/interesting-replica-1723-peter-rosa-rosa-americana-penny-part-i.393605/#post-8235366[/URL] I showed 2 examples attributed to Peter Rosa and associates, and displayed a feature I believe diagnostic for any example, the "broken ER". [ATTACH=full]1449054[/ATTACH] Discussion example Genuine Example courtesy HA.com From further discussions I believe this feature is a result of strike bifurcation, similar to my 1794 large cent, where the strike(s) caused the metal to flow outward creating a larger than normal diameter and weak, not filled out legends and date. [ATTACH=full]1449064[/ATTACH] I am told in Syd Martin's book (an expert on the series) he stated only 1 known die state for this variety, the "perfect dies". So, not a die state, but a die strike characteristic of the source example or model, "die" linking the examples in this discussion... So, for part II I am displaying a 3rd example- this one described as being in a major collection and a "copper plated lead cast" (weight at 143.4 grains). [ATTACH=full]1449065[/ATTACH] Basically the same centering and dentillation as the other two but a major difference is the "blobs" of excess material, an unintended byproduct of the casting process. [ATTACH=full]1449067[/ATTACH] Now looking for the genuine source example:D...[/QUOTE]
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