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<p>[QUOTE=&quot;satootoko, post: 42988, member: 669&quot;]Welcome to the forum Darwin.I think you are confusing &quot;marks&quot; with &quot;signs of wear&quot;.&nbsp; Actually they are two different things.</p><p><br /></p><p>An MS state coin can, and in grades up to 65 or 66 usually does, have &quot;nicks and dings&quot;, commonly known as &quot;bag marks.&quot;&nbsp; They come from the jostling against each other which happens with bagged coins, and in the rolling machinery.&nbsp; They absolutely don&#039;t mean the coin is circulated, and usually don&#039;t cause breaks in the original luster.</p><p><br /></p><p>Rub marks, from handling, clinking against each other in a pocket or purse, or even from the plastic slides in some of the Whitman and other albums, do break luster, and drop the rubbed coin from mint state to circulated status.&nbsp; Since &quot;uncirculated&quot; and &quot;circulated&quot; are conditions, they aren&#039;t always linked to actual use in commerce - the usual definition of &quot;circulation&quot;.</p><p><br /></p><p>If you can&#039;t detect a difference in the appearance of a coin that has changed hands a time or two from one that hasn&#039;t, they are both &quot;uncirculated&quot; or &quot;mint state&quot;.&nbsp; If sloppy handling by a collector gives a coin the appearance of one that has been changing hands regularly in commerce, it will be graded AU or below.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>

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