Interesting countermark Thrace bronze (200-100 BC)

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  1. Roerbakmix

    Roerbakmix Well-Known Member

    I've added this small bronze coin from Thrace, Mesembria (ca. 200-100 BC; identified by @Orielensis) to my collection, mainly because of the interesting countermark on the observe side.
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    Obv: Wreathed head of Dionysos to the right. Countermark of female figure to the right.
    Rev: MEΣAM-BΡIAN[ΩN], grape bunch; MΔ above
    Weight 7.24 g, diameter: 20 mm. Dark-brown bronze patina, high relief.
    With a close-up of the countermark:
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    I found a comparable countermark online:
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    I know little to nothing about countermarks: what is a good strategy to find out more on this countermark?
     
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  3. Orielensis

    Orielensis Well-Known Member

    Your coin is from Thrace, Mesembria. Acsearch has a couple of examples, see here. It appears to be rather scarce.

    I'd be excited to hear if you find out anything about the countermark!
     
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  4. Roerbakmix

    Roerbakmix Well-Known Member

    Thanks @Orielensis; I've changed the subject of this topic :)
     
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  5. ominus1

    ominus1 Well-Known Member

    kool coins!..i like counterstamped ones too..i would reckon the next ruler made them, but i couldn't guarantee it tho..:) scotty tribble purse Cappadocia Severus Alex Mt Arg. coins 002.JPG
     
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  6. Bing

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  7. Roerbakmix

    Roerbakmix Well-Known Member

    Interesting countermarks, @Bing and @ominus1! Still struggling to find more info on my countermark. Any help would be appreciated!
     
  8. Marsyas Mike

    Marsyas Mike Well-Known Member

    I really like this countermark - it is attractive and unusual. I have just been getting into ancient countermarks the past year or and a lot of the time I have pretty good luck blundering into information online.

    But sometimes this doesn't work out for me - I tried some of my usual methods (start with a Google image search of the host coin + "countermark", etc.) but a cursory effort didn't find anything that matches yours.

    This page on FORVM have helped me attribute countermark ancients, although I did not see yours:

    http://www.forumancientcoins.com/gallery/thumbnails.php?album=546
     
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    Nicholas Molinari Well-Known Member

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