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<p>[QUOTE="gatzdon, post: 375421, member: 8247"]Troodon, don't forget that this country likes to overstate the cost of doing/buying/making various stuff.</p><p><br /></p><p>The cost to DESIGN and build a working dry intaglio press is much different than the cost to build a duplicate dry intaglio press. </p><p><br /></p><p>All a small organization would need is a couple very good machinists and access to the very detailed and accurate plans for the dry intaglio press. At which point, the cost would be very low as you have no need for engineering, designers, engravers, etc.... All you need to do is smuggle detailed electronic drawings. Heck, many modern CNC's can machine parts directly from the electronic drawings eliminating the need for machinists (but I've yet to see such a feat work for complicated parts without the need for tweaking the CNC's scripts).</p><p><br /></p><p>As for the plates, again, all you need is access to the originals in the form of detailed electronic files or high quality photographs. We have people designing/building complete processors less than a ¼" in size. Take out the designing/engraving step and realize that you are talking macro compared to cpu's, and engraving a plate using similar technology is well within the grasp of any decent MIT grad student to make a plate. Heck, maybe the reason the supernotes are of a higher quality is because their plates are duplicates of the original masters and don't include any of the anomolies introduced by the BEP's semi-automated duplicating processes used to make the hundreds of plates needed to keep up with volume.</p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>Now, this doesn't have to be the CIA or any other covert government operation, but rather this could be any organization that has managed to either hack into or place a spy in the BEP and gain access to the electronic files. Could simply be the result of a corrupt official selling the files. Who knows. All I'm saying is, don't confuse the cost of duplicating an existing technology with the cost of reverse engineering it.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="gatzdon, post: 375421, member: 8247"]Troodon, don't forget that this country likes to overstate the cost of doing/buying/making various stuff. The cost to DESIGN and build a working dry intaglio press is much different than the cost to build a duplicate dry intaglio press. All a small organization would need is a couple very good machinists and access to the very detailed and accurate plans for the dry intaglio press. At which point, the cost would be very low as you have no need for engineering, designers, engravers, etc.... All you need to do is smuggle detailed electronic drawings. Heck, many modern CNC's can machine parts directly from the electronic drawings eliminating the need for machinists (but I've yet to see such a feat work for complicated parts without the need for tweaking the CNC's scripts). As for the plates, again, all you need is access to the originals in the form of detailed electronic files or high quality photographs. We have people designing/building complete processors less than a ¼" in size. Take out the designing/engraving step and realize that you are talking macro compared to cpu's, and engraving a plate using similar technology is well within the grasp of any decent MIT grad student to make a plate. Heck, maybe the reason the supernotes are of a higher quality is because their plates are duplicates of the original masters and don't include any of the anomolies introduced by the BEP's semi-automated duplicating processes used to make the hundreds of plates needed to keep up with volume. Now, this doesn't have to be the CIA or any other covert government operation, but rather this could be any organization that has managed to either hack into or place a spy in the BEP and gain access to the electronic files. Could simply be the result of a corrupt official selling the files. Who knows. All I'm saying is, don't confuse the cost of duplicating an existing technology with the cost of reverse engineering it.[/QUOTE]
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