I recently acquired this rather scarce and interesting coin which came with some great old collector tags. The sale had a forward about the Stoecklin Father and Son who were the most recent owners (before me). The son died in 1981, I believe, and the family must be finally getting around to getting rid of his coins. Anyway, the tags are priceless to me. One of the Stoecklin's bought the coin in the famous Munzen und Medaillen sale of Dr. August Voirol's collection in 1968. It's really a great sale with nice RR coins and I own a few pieces from it. This is the first time I've received tags from pre 1970's sales, and vanity tags at that made especially for the collectors (which is cool!). Deciphering the handwriting on the back of one of Dr. Voirol's tag one can see he purchased it from Munzen und Medaillen himself in June, 1958 for 375 Swiss Francs! Talk about having a nice trail to follow! I still haven't given up on finding if there is anything published by MuM on this coin into the 1950's but I'm thinking it was a retail purchase. Tracking down possible prior provenances is a large part of my collecting enjoyment. Having the original collectors' tags really connects me to them and I can see the passion and pride they took in their coins, just like we all do. I will make certain these and every tag I have will someday make it forward to the next generation to caretake these coins. Mark Antony, April-May 44 BC. AR Denarius (18mm, 3.92g 9h), with P. Sepullius Macer, Rome. CLEMENTIAE CAESARIS Tetrastyle temple with closed doors and a globe in the pediment. Rev. P.SEPVLLIVS / MACER Desultor, wearing a conical cap and holding whip, riding a horse galloping to right with another beside him; to left, wreath and palm branch. Alföldi XXII, 86. Babelon (Julia) 52, (Sepullia) 7. Crawford 480/21. CRI 110. Sydenham 1076. Current Picture: MuM 1968 Voirol catalogue pic: Tickets Obv and Reverse: Anyone else have some cool old collector tickets? I'm looking for a Haeberlin if they exist.
Marvelous coin and provenance. I only have a couple with old tags, but I do not know the dates of the tags and this one I only have an image of the front so I will have to get it out and take more photos
This is so cool! I thought Voirol might have got it from an M&M FPL. I checked everything from June 1957 - June 1958, even the un-illustrated lots, but no luck. Guess they just gave him a call (they did have telephones then, right!?) I have a nice, beautifully handwritten Boyd Collection ticket from around the turn of the 20th Century. I have Benz's tickets on my coins from his collection, but frankly they're nothing special; neither pretty nor informative. Some are just scrawled on scraps of paper that look like they were cut from used envelopes. They do fit in my trays though, unlike most, so they get to live with my coins. The best tickets I've ever seen are from Dick Schaefer's Goodman Collection coins. They add all sorts of insightful observations on the early denarii, stuff not published anywhere since his coins were sold before the days when prominent collectors collaborate in the production of the catalogue, adding observations and anecdotes. I've never seen a Haeberlin ticket. I don't think they were saved, but then again, I'd never seen a Voirol ticket until now so who knows really. I don't have a picture of the Boyd ticket, but what the heck, here's the coin:
I've got a couple Goodman and Benz coins but the tickets haven't made it with the coins. With the ever increasing specter of provenances become mandatory in our hobby making sure that tickets follow the coin really needs to be a best practice. And that Boyd coin...wow!
I have one more thought about your coin. The M&M FPL for May 1958, Liste 179, does contain a run of Roman coins with architectural types, clearly a single collection. Your coin isn't there, even among the un-illustrated lots, but I think there's a very very good chance it's part of the same collection. We'll never know for sure and can only guess as to why it might have been omitted, but if I had to bet that's they way I'd go. It's maybe worth noting on your ticket as a surmise.
Thanks big V! That's a great head start. I've got most of the MuM FPL's in my library but I've been traveling and haven't been able to research. I bet you are right and noting Dr Voirol's drawing of the temple maybe plays into it.
I don't have any coins with tags that date prior to the dealer/auction house I got them from. But some of my coins have pretty impressive provenances.
Goodman's tickets are some of my favorites because he drew out the symbols and tends to have interesting notes about the coins on them. Here are a couple of my "provenance" files with their associated coins:
Nice provenance on the OP! The oldest tag I have is this 44-year-old dealer tag, recording a purchase made in March, 1973: Here's the coin: Julia Maesa, Augusta AD 218-225 Roman Orichalcum Sestertius; 21.28 gm; 29.2 mm Rome mint, AD 218-220 Obv: IVLIA MAESA AVGVSTA, diademed and draped bust, r. Rev: PIETAS AVG SC, Pietas standing l., sacrificing over altar and holding incense box. Refs: RIC 414; Cohen 31; BMCRE 389; Sear 7763; Thirion 408
Wow that's a great coin, and the Voirol tags are fantastic! I've always enjoyed the goodies that come with BCD's coins. This one also came with his tags and little Polaroids of both sides of the coin.
I recall him saying that he painstakingly did these little Polaroid cut outs for most or all of his AR coins, but not every BCD silver I've bought has come with them. It's sad to think about all the cool old collectors tags and envelopes that have been discarded simply because some dealers and auction houses don't find them convenient to handle and pass along to the new owners.
Interesting group of coins and tickets Red. I presume the first two are also ex RBW, as they have his typical envelope and information. The first "Goodman" tag has an interesting reference to Santamaria (in ligature) 88 54. Santamaria is an auction house/dealer in Rome. This might be acquisition info, or it might be a hoard reference.