I bought a lot of sealed proof sets in an online estate sale. Most of them were rather ordinary, and I sold all but two of them. This one was quite attractive to me, because of the Cellophane toning on the Franklin.
I wonder why the half toned, but the quarter and dime didn't? Think there may be a tiny pinhole in that segment?
Nope. No holes. The proof set was sealed in the envelope. This happens reasonably often. The nickel is also toned, but less so. Cellophane toning is common in late 1950s-1960s proof sets.
There doesn't need to be one - the pliofilm itself is air permeable. That said, asking why one coin tones while others (in the same package) don't is a reasonable question. The answer however is - nobody really knows. What we do know is it is beyond extremely common for one or more coins to tone while others don't. Same thing happens in albums, flips, slabs, Air-Tites, etc etc. There is much speculation as to why it happens, but that's all it is, speculation because nobody actually knows with any degree of certainty.
Besides the "pin hole" possibility, I see a second possibility. During the sealing process a small piece of something got caught up in the process. That "small piece of something" reacted with the coining metal.
Yup, it can happen, it has happened. But typically when that does happen the resulting toning usually occurs in small areas, and very seldom if ever over the entire coin, let lone both sides of the entire coin. But, depending on what that small piece of something was, it's possible - but not really probable.
Are you suggesting that it is artificially toned? In sealed cellophane, inside a sealed mint envelope?
Nope, not in any way. Quite the opposite in fact. I'm merely pointing out that since air can pass right through pliofilm, just like it does with almost all plastics, no pinhole is even required for completely natural toning to occur.
I have known Doug for 11 years. I was just asking if he thought it was AT. He and I have debated authenticity of toning for over a decade.
This has happened to quite a few 1962 proof sets. I wonder if something was done differently to the coins this year, rinse or different brand of cello?
To answer the previous poster, I think I don’t want it to sit in the bag much longer, and possibly turn blackish. It is a high grade proof, probably a 67 or 68, so, I am going to send in the whole proof set to NGC, and just have the Franklin slabbed (possibly the Jefferson also).
This past week I learned something new, which could be somewhat related to the toning question posted above. I believe I read it in 'A Guide Book of Franklin & Kennedy Half Dollars' by Rick Tomaska, but I can't seem to find the paragraph now that I'm looking for it. Essentially, it was talking about Franklin proof sets and that at one point in 70s/80s, it wasn't all too uncommon for folks to find the "best" proof sets with cameo coins, cut em open, and then repurpose the original mint packaging with other, authentic (albeit, non-cameo) proof coins. I am not suggesting that this happened here, however, to answer the question "how can two coins in the same packaging tone so differently," it is hypothetically possible that this could've occurred. The passage went on to say that if you place a US mint-sealed proof set next to a resealed set, you should be able to identify the minute difference due to the sealing pattern in the cellophane.
I have seen proof sets that were repurposed like that. It is pretty obvious, as one can’t match the sealing without it looking obvious.