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<p>[QUOTE="-jeffB, post: 1150808, member: 27832"]"Without any aids or chemicals", eh?</p><p><br /></p><p>I guess it's annoying to be pedantic, but I might as well keep at it. <img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie1" alt=":)" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" /></p><p><br /></p><p>Air is composed of chemicals. Albums are composed of chemicals. Every material that your coins will ever touch is composed of chemicals.</p><p><br /></p><p>Keep your coin in a hard vacuum, and it will never tone. Keep your coin in a highly "artificial" environment of "chemicals" like pure argon or helium, and it will never tone.</p><p><br /></p><p>Put your coin in a paper album, and it will tone -- because of the <i>chemicals</i> present in that album, which in turn are there because of the album's <i>artificial</i> manufacture.</p><p><br /></p><p>Put your coin in an "all-natural" environment -- sitting out on a rock somewhere, or buried in topsoil -- and it will tone even more quickly.</p><p><br /></p><p>The chemical process of toning always requires chemicals. These chemicals can be supplied in a number of ways, and the process can happen slowly or quickly, intentionally or accidentally. The result, in terms of the coin's chemical and physical state, is the same -- metal on the surface of the coin is oxidized, forming a layer whose thickness falls into a particular range.</p><p><br /></p><p>Trying to distinguish "artificial" from "natural" toning, when they both produce <i>the same physical result</i>, is just never going to work. It's like trying to adjust the value of a coin depending on how much greed or luck went into its last purchase -- "you got that nice XF 1895-S Morgan for $15, so even though FMV is $1200, I'm only going to give you melt for it." Yes, intent is important. No, it doesn't change the characteristics of the coin. And no, in my opinion, it doesn't change the coin's <i>value</i>.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="-jeffB, post: 1150808, member: 27832"]"Without any aids or chemicals", eh? I guess it's annoying to be pedantic, but I might as well keep at it. :) Air is composed of chemicals. Albums are composed of chemicals. Every material that your coins will ever touch is composed of chemicals. Keep your coin in a hard vacuum, and it will never tone. Keep your coin in a highly "artificial" environment of "chemicals" like pure argon or helium, and it will never tone. Put your coin in a paper album, and it will tone -- because of the [I]chemicals[/I] present in that album, which in turn are there because of the album's [I]artificial[/I] manufacture. Put your coin in an "all-natural" environment -- sitting out on a rock somewhere, or buried in topsoil -- and it will tone even more quickly. The chemical process of toning always requires chemicals. These chemicals can be supplied in a number of ways, and the process can happen slowly or quickly, intentionally or accidentally. The result, in terms of the coin's chemical and physical state, is the same -- metal on the surface of the coin is oxidized, forming a layer whose thickness falls into a particular range. Trying to distinguish "artificial" from "natural" toning, when they both produce [I]the same physical result[/I], is just never going to work. It's like trying to adjust the value of a coin depending on how much greed or luck went into its last purchase -- "you got that nice XF 1895-S Morgan for $15, so even though FMV is $1200, I'm only going to give you melt for it." Yes, intent is important. No, it doesn't change the characteristics of the coin. And no, in my opinion, it doesn't change the coin's [I]value[/I].[/QUOTE]
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