Every member of CT agrees to this when they register here - https://www.cointalk.com/help/terms So could Peter (or anybody else) use what is posted on this forum to write a book ? Absolutely not ! As plainly stated the copyright to whatever is posted here belongs to the individual who posted it. You are granting us with a non-exclusive, permanent, irrevocable, unlimited license to use, publish, or re-publish your Content in connection with the Service. You retain copyright over the Content.
Well, there goes that idea for the CT book Question for members: CT shows members logged in, visitors, and "bots." Is a "bot" like an automatic robot or something that watches stuff? From a post on this thread I get the impression that they can be dangerous. How? Copy our personal info?
Yeah it shows members logged in, but only when that member chooses that he be shown as logged in. He can also choose to not be shown as logged in. And yeah, bots can be dangerous. They are, for lack of a better way to say it, automatic programs that search the entire internet 24/7/365. They can also be harmless and serve an good purpose. It all depends on how they are configured and who is running them. Spammers use them to harvest information like phone numbers, addresses, email addresses, any type of personal information. Which is why the CT staff removes information like that when it posted by our members. We do it to protect you, or at least try to protect you. The good bots, and some find even that debatable, are run by folks like Google, The Way Back Machine, and any of a number of other entities that actually serve a useful purpose, help make the internet work in other words.
I have no magic, secret data: whois data - for EVERY website is publically available. Google "whois" and the website name. A dozen sites will provide you with the information, or you can do your own whois query under every operating system in existence. One I often use is https://www.whois.net/ Many hosting companies provide some form of non-public (extra cost) registration where the information is redirected to their information. But if you don't pay, your information is out there. And if you think the bots don't already have it, you are being foolish - how do you think the whois pages get build. Point is that Dave is making it out as if the contributors here on CT own the site. We don't - and the ownership is either Peter or somebody unseen behind the curtain...
OK, so if I post all of your personal information here you're OK with that - is that what you are saying ?
For the life of me, I cannot comprehend how he managed to read any of that into my words. I used the term "forum owners," which has nothing whatsoever to do with "forum members." And Doug, the very rule you quoted specifically delineates your right to republish anything from this site you (site owners, not necessarily you personally) want....if you choose to derive income from that republishing, I'd guess (there's likely legal precedent, but I don't have any off the top of my head) the original poster would have a claim to all/some of it due to their ownership of the copyright, but you can clearly republish if you wish.
However, VeriSign (the .com registrar) says: "You agree that (...) under no circumstances will you use this Data to: (1) allow, enable, or otherwise support the transmission of mass unsolicited, commercial advertising or solicitations via e-mail, telephone, or facsimile (...) The compilation, repackaging, dissemination or other use of this Data is expressly prohibited without the prior written consent of VeriSign." As far as I know, publicly available is not the same as "OK to be published elsewhere". Then again, I am not a lawyer ... Christian
Yeah, Peter can, but he won't. My point was that nobody else can because the copyright remains with the poster.
Gotcha. All the same, one prime example of "republishing" is Peter's "Featured" inclusions on the site's front page, which by their nature are designed to benefit the site....
Yeah, just like I republish your comment every time I use the quote feature, as does everybody else. C'mon now Dave, that's not what was being discussed and you know it. So why bother splitting hairs ?
I'm just illustrating reasons why it's a good thing, in anticipation of inevitable arguments against from the members who employ that same hairsplitting to generate an argument for the sake of arguing. Part of my agenda here is to inform of what the Internet is and isn't to forum posters and general and coin collectors in specific, as it's clear that many new posters here are as unsure of the Internet itself as they are collecting. This thread has 30 posts and 440 reads; how many of those reads are from people who've never seen this information before? Experienced members here aren't F5ing the thread to up the Read count; they know when someone new has posted and Alerts (again, what a wonderful feature) let them know if they've been specifically called out. You can't_ever_forget the nonparticipants; they're the most important people here because many are as yet undecided whether they're going to contribute in the future or not.
I actually took a college class (student teaching seminar) where the instructor required all students to do demos. He collected them and published...made some good money on other's work.