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<p>[QUOTE="Catbert, post: 381800, member: 12718"]Sined - I've got to agree with you on the beauty of this coin. </p><p> </p><p>In shopping around, I wanted to get a slabbed version because I did not trust my eye for forgeries. I bought a 1911 NGC MS-60 and thought I might submit for an upgrade since I thought it looked great. Well, I was disabused from that notion when I showed the coin to David Lange of NGC when I was at the Central States show in April. He told me that it appeared the coin's face showed evidence of being lightly swiped or polished. He said that my Indian might not even maintain the 60 if resubmitted!</p><p> </p><p>So, I was upset about that but also relieved to have an expert's judgement that I had a problem coin despite the slab. I found a buyer for my coin at the show and then bought a PCGS MS61 1909-D (I too didn't care about the date) from a dealer there. I carefully inspected for wear and field scratches. I wanted a MS since I wanted to capture fully the feather detail.</p><p> </p><p>Anyway, I love this type and want to get the $10 Indian too. I think those two are better, IMHO, than the St. Gauden's coin in terms of design that appeals to me.</p><p> </p><p>My recommendation is that you should be very careful to be sure you get a real coin and that you don't overpay for the condition. The 1912 picture you posted has a strong reverse with only slight wear on the top of the wing. On the obverse, it looks either XF or AU to me. Beyond the scratch at the top of the coin, are there other scratches in the fields? I think the picture is hiding this somewhat given the wear in the feathers.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="Catbert, post: 381800, member: 12718"]Sined - I've got to agree with you on the beauty of this coin. In shopping around, I wanted to get a slabbed version because I did not trust my eye for forgeries. I bought a 1911 NGC MS-60 and thought I might submit for an upgrade since I thought it looked great. Well, I was disabused from that notion when I showed the coin to David Lange of NGC when I was at the Central States show in April. He told me that it appeared the coin's face showed evidence of being lightly swiped or polished. He said that my Indian might not even maintain the 60 if resubmitted! So, I was upset about that but also relieved to have an expert's judgement that I had a problem coin despite the slab. I found a buyer for my coin at the show and then bought a PCGS MS61 1909-D (I too didn't care about the date) from a dealer there. I carefully inspected for wear and field scratches. I wanted a MS since I wanted to capture fully the feather detail. Anyway, I love this type and want to get the $10 Indian too. I think those two are better, IMHO, than the St. Gauden's coin in terms of design that appeals to me. My recommendation is that you should be very careful to be sure you get a real coin and that you don't overpay for the condition. The 1912 picture you posted has a strong reverse with only slight wear on the top of the wing. On the obverse, it looks either XF or AU to me. Beyond the scratch at the top of the coin, are there other scratches in the fields? I think the picture is hiding this somewhat given the wear in the feathers.[/QUOTE]
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