Ian, these are very nice early Indian coins. The copper coins of Indore are particularly tough to get in nice grade and there are many sub-varieties. Thanks for posting the images. Regards, Ballabh Garg
Ian,I have never been able to work out where you find the regnal year on those round Hyderabadi copper coins. Ian,that square AH1362 (1943) 1 Anna is a very nice coin.Although Krause lists it very cheaply,it is actually quite a difficult coin to find. A few years back,I gave someone 50c. New Zealand for a round cupro-nickel Hyderabadi AH1354 (1935) 1 Anna.The guy I had bought it off didn't want it for his collection,so he decided it would be better off landed in my collection,where it is staying. Aidan.
Some more. This time examples of different copper denominations from Kutch. 1919 (VS1976) copper `Trambiyo' minted during reign of Khengarji III 1920(VS1977) copper `Dokdo'. Some corrosion but little wear. 1929 (VS1986) copper 1 1/2 `Dokda' 1943(VS2000) copper `Dhinglo' (1/16th Kori) minted during reign of Madanasinghji. 1943(VS1999) copper `Dhabu' (1/8th Kori)
It looks like regnal year on this is 41. You can find it on reverse. There is a circle in center and just outside that circle, the regnal year is written in Persian numerals. You may have to rotate the coin little bit to find the exact spot where to look for it. Regards Ballabh Garg
Aidan, i've circled the regnal year `41' on the im age of the 2 pai for you. Hopefully you can enlarge it adequately enough to see the `41'. Many of these copper coins are quite difficult to find but prices reflect `demand' as well as relative scarcity. While it does make you wonder where Krause get their prices from, I suspect that they don't perceive there being much `demand'. That has certainly been changing though, and one day Krause might catch up with that reality. As it is, Krause is the best we've got for referencing. `It's better than a poke in the eye with a burnt stick' said Polyphemus (of Cyclops fame).
Ian,those are very nice Kutchi coins.You do realise that the Kutchi coins are inscribed jointly in the name of the Maharajah of Kutch & our monarchs. Ian & Ballabh,thanks for working out where to find the regnal dates on those Hyderabadi Toughra copper coins.What about trying to find the regnal years & the dates on the holed copper coins from Hyderabad? I have a few of those lying around. If you do get a Hyderabadi coin dated AH1368 (1948),then it is a very historic coin worth keeping,as it was issued when Hyderabad was an independent monarchy within the British Commonwealth. Aidan.
Aidan, I'm sorry, but I don't have any of the Hyderabad 2 pai coins to relate to so I can't help you with that one. However, if you know your Hyderabad Arabic numerals I can't imagine that you'd have to spend too much time finding where they appear on the coins....as long as you have a good magnifying glass that is.
A few more Indian States coppers. This is one of my favourites. Octagonal and with a view! it's a 1 anna from Mewar dated 1943 (VS2000) KM 17: A petite coin from Pudukottai, an Annam Cash (roughly 7mm diameter) of 1889 (KM 6): This one is a cheeky little monkey from Ratlam. A paisa dated 1890, KM24: A scarcer modern 1/4 anna of Edward VII dated 1908 from Sailana. Rougher condition than i'd like, but very difficult to find much better. Another 1/4 anna from Sailana, this time George V 1912. Rough again. Finally, A nice high grade paisa from Tonk dated 1932 (KM29). Another one of my favourites
Ian,if I had a camera,I would have been able to post a couple of photos of one of the holey Hyderabadi copper coins to demonstrate how extremely difficult it is to find either the date or the regnal year. Aidan.
Ian,those are a nice lot you have got there.Those Sailana 1/4 Anna coins are very difficult to find.I have got a 1912.I have got both sizes of the Tonkese AH1350 (1912) 1 Paisa coins.They are very difficult to find.There were only 3 coins that were issued by Pudukottai - two 1/20 Anna coins (1 hammered & 1 machine struck) & a rare 1/16 Anna. You have to be very careful with the Pudukottai machine struck 1/20 Anna coin,as there are very deceptive forgeries,even though the original coin is catalogued at under US$5. Aidan.
AH1350 = 1931/1932. 1932 in the case of the Tonk coins. You have the AH date 1350 in arabic on one side and the AD date 1932 in arabic on the other. . I've got KM29 and 29a too. Ian
Ian,I don't have either of the Ratlam coins.The thin planchet variety is also dated around 1890,but it was actually an official restrike issued around 1942.It is very cheaply priced in Krause (at least it was in my 1981 Krause!). Eventually,I will have to update my books. Aidan.
You need to get one of these coins Aidan. I know of the restrike. The example I have shown is an original (if the weight is anything to go by). Sometimes I think it was a mistake updating my Krause catalogues. More data...yes. More mistakes....yes. Layout has degenerated too (IMHO that is). Ian
Ian,Indian Princely States coins are not easy to find over here.We see mainly Gwaliori portrait copper 1/4 Anna coins over here.Occasionally,we see Hyderabadi silver coins.Anything else have been strokes of luck that has come my way. Aidan.
Aidan have you got a flatbed scanner? you can use it to get the pics of your coins, thats what I use LOL as me and cameras :headbang: De Orc :thumb:
Steve,I haven't got either a camera,nor a flatbed scanner.I will be getting one sometime down the track.Strangely,I haven't got a printer either. Aidan.
You have quite a nice collection, Ian and surely have developed the taste! Both of the Sailana coins are extremely tough to get in nice conditions. And the price listed in Krause is not accurate for these. It's interesting to see that when a regular British-Indian coins were heavily produced in Bombay and Calcutta mints, some of these regional coins with the same portraits circulated well in a small area. Fascinating! Regards Ballabh Garg
