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<p>[QUOTE="Prethen, post: 31797, member: 1756"]This weekend I'm going to be looking at purchasing a number of raw Indian Cents and I must admit that I don't have a lot of knowledge in the area of avoiding counterfeits or "problem" copper (I mainly deal with nickel and silver).</p><p><br /></p><p>The 1877 (I've been told) is in pretty worn shape. I know to look for uniform "7's", angular bottoms of the "7's", and a soft center strike ("N" and "E") of the reverse. On a coin that's pretty worn, what are the chances that it's a counterfeit? What other tell-tale signs might I look for (especially on a heavily worn coin)? I think the CDN for Good is about $240; what's a fair price for About Good, Fair, or Poor?</p><p><br /></p><p>Other than a clear "s", what am I looking for to make sure the "S" minted coins are not counterfeit. I realize that the spark-erosion dies will create a "bubbling-effect" on the coin in some cases, but are there obvious points to look for?</p><p><br /></p><p>I wish I had my (dopey) father's Indian cent collection (which I moronically gave him) because he <b>cleaned</b> all the them to make them look nice! Since he's a 1000 miles away (and besides, if he was any closer when he told me that, I'd be in jail today <img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie9" alt=":eek:" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" /> ), I don't have the opportunity to see what a bunch of various cleaned Indian cents might look like. I don't have any "spare" Indian cents to experiment with. What should I look for that might be unnatural for these coins, that is a sign it has been cleaned (of course, it shouldn't look "coppery")?</p><p><br /></p><p>When grading Indian Cents, are there grading subtleties that the grading books don't point out? For instance, are there certain years that need to take in a generally weaker strike, especially when looking at the "Liberty". I'm going to use the PCGS book as my main guide for grading them. </p><p><br /></p><p>Any other advice when examine these coins as a whole?</p><p><br /></p><p>Thanks! If I purchase them, I'll try to be sure to provide scans on this forum. </p><p><br /></p><p>[By the way, I'm not sure if I'm breaking any sort of etiquette or anything, but this is a cross-post from a forum on the PCGS boards. I hope that's okay.][/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="Prethen, post: 31797, member: 1756"]This weekend I'm going to be looking at purchasing a number of raw Indian Cents and I must admit that I don't have a lot of knowledge in the area of avoiding counterfeits or "problem" copper (I mainly deal with nickel and silver). The 1877 (I've been told) is in pretty worn shape. I know to look for uniform "7's", angular bottoms of the "7's", and a soft center strike ("N" and "E") of the reverse. On a coin that's pretty worn, what are the chances that it's a counterfeit? What other tell-tale signs might I look for (especially on a heavily worn coin)? I think the CDN for Good is about $240; what's a fair price for About Good, Fair, or Poor? Other than a clear "s", what am I looking for to make sure the "S" minted coins are not counterfeit. I realize that the spark-erosion dies will create a "bubbling-effect" on the coin in some cases, but are there obvious points to look for? I wish I had my (dopey) father's Indian cent collection (which I moronically gave him) because he [B]cleaned[/B] all the them to make them look nice! Since he's a 1000 miles away (and besides, if he was any closer when he told me that, I'd be in jail today :eek: ), I don't have the opportunity to see what a bunch of various cleaned Indian cents might look like. I don't have any "spare" Indian cents to experiment with. What should I look for that might be unnatural for these coins, that is a sign it has been cleaned (of course, it shouldn't look "coppery")? When grading Indian Cents, are there grading subtleties that the grading books don't point out? For instance, are there certain years that need to take in a generally weaker strike, especially when looking at the "Liberty". I'm going to use the PCGS book as my main guide for grading them. Any other advice when examine these coins as a whole? Thanks! If I purchase them, I'll try to be sure to provide scans on this forum. [By the way, I'm not sure if I'm breaking any sort of etiquette or anything, but this is a cross-post from a forum on the PCGS boards. I hope that's okay.][/QUOTE]
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