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<p>[QUOTE=&quot;Terence Cheesman, post: 4505200, member: 86498&quot;]In response to robinjojo. Your coin does look like a Starr 5 B Series 3 Again using the coin from CNG I posted earlier[ATTACH=full]1116931[/ATTACH]</p><p>1. The palmet or decoration on the bowl of the helmet is consistent</p><p>2. The angle of the head of the owl is also consistent</p><p>3. The bird is nicely plump as are most of the owls of this group</p><p>In response to DonnaML Unfortunately there is nothing on line that covers the Athenian &quot;mass coinage&quot; in any detail The best reference is by Christophe Flament He discusses the mass coinage using some 60 pages with 39 pages of plates. Even that barely scratches the surface. However I will attempt to carry on where my last post left off[ATTACH=full]1116936[/ATTACH] Flament Group I Early Some call this a &quot;transitional coinage&quot; In most respects this group resembles the Starr Group 5 B coins The most obvious difference is the treatment of the tail feathers. This is consistent with all three groups within the mass coinage. However the palmet is similar as well as the angle of the head of the owl as well as its robustness.[ATTACH=full]1116937[/ATTACH]</p><p>Flament Group I Late This coin was advertised as a Starr 5 and I bought it thinking it was a Flament Group II The palmet on the helmet is slightly simplified and the head of the owl is straight. What separates this coin from a Group II is that the head of the owl is ever so slightly tilted back so that it looks like it is trying to look upwards. [ATTACH=full]1116939[/ATTACH]</p><p>Flament Group II On this coin the palmet is becoming even more simplified and the owl is becoming more squat.</p><p>[ATTACH=full]1116944[/ATTACH]</p><p>Flament Group III On this coin the image of Athena is more coarsely drawn. The palmet is very simple The eye of Athena is opening up at one end. There is also a faint pupil present The image of the owl is more coarse as well. The reverse punch is becoming much more shallow. As luck would have it except for my Starr Group IV tetradrachm I puchaed every one of my Athenian tetradrachms just before the hoard came out. Again except for the image from CNG all photos are done by W. Hansen[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>

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