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<p>[QUOTE=&quot;Martha Lynn, post: 4242690, member: 101796&quot;]In a way are we talking about knock offs ? For instance some one makes a copy of a famous piece of jewelry, or coat. Is it real ? of course not. Because the</p><p>item was not authorized.</p><p>&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp; Take the ruling handed down by the Texas supreme</p><p>court in 1869 :Tx v White. It concerned Texas issued</p><p>bonds created during the war. Were they authentic ?</p><p>&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp; This ruling could shed light on my example of</p><p>CSA coins. The Tx. supreme court ruled that the CSA</p><p>states never were legally succeeded from the Union</p><p>because the U.S. senate never voted to expel the senators and reps of those states that succeeded. a</p><p>requirement of law.</p><p>&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp; To me that would imply that the U.S. mints were</p><p>still under the jurisdiction and authority of the U.S.</p><p>government. Even though the CSA Held the mints, they were not authorized to mint coinage. This would support the contention there is no need for intent to</p><p>deceive for an item to be fraudulent...Only the matter of authority to&nbsp; produce the item.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>

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