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<p>[QUOTE="lehmansterms, post: 4236588, member: 80804"]There is a whole galaxy of terms which could be applied to copies of various kinds, but there are questions to try to answer before assigning a tag. </p><p>First you need to consider (or try to determine) the intention of the creator. Was this made in hopes of deceiving someone for any reason, or was it made to be an innocent copy and nothing more. Then, if it was not created to deceive, has it later been re-purposed in a deceptive role - that needs to be considered and noted as well.</p><p>Next you have to consider what role it may actually play in "today's" numismatic world. </p><p>A counterfeit (at least to me) is an illicit copy of legal tender created to deceive. Forgery is a similar term with negative connotations covering a larger range of non-official doings.</p><p>If it's a non-nefarious "copy" for whatever purpose it was created, then you also need to consider why it was created and whether it was an approved or accepted copy - eg: a significant percentage of the extant stock of reduced majorinae of the fallen horseman FEL TEMP REPARATIO were contemporary copies and not produced by official mints but circulated side-by-side with the official issues they emulated. Many potentially very deceptive copies are produced and sold as copies. They might currently be being promoted and offered as authentic and original which changes their use, but not their initial nature. Many ancient copies were not made to deceive anyone - they were produced as a local stopgap effort to provide the cash necessary to keep trade alive in times of scarcity of official coinage. The "Limes Falsa" copies of 1st century AE's in Britain and northern Europe were similarly created to fill a vacuum created by a lack of official coinage - they certainly weren't made with the intention to fool anyone into thinking they were the official item.</p><p>Some pieces were meant to be deceiving in antiquity, but those are primarily items like the foil-wrapped fourrèes, obviously made to deceive.</p><p>The one word which is virtually meaningless in all of this discussion is "FAKE" which means nothing at all without considering the origins, the presumptive motivation and intended use implied in the creation of any non-official mint issue.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="lehmansterms, post: 4236588, member: 80804"]There is a whole galaxy of terms which could be applied to copies of various kinds, but there are questions to try to answer before assigning a tag. First you need to consider (or try to determine) the intention of the creator. Was this made in hopes of deceiving someone for any reason, or was it made to be an innocent copy and nothing more. Then, if it was not created to deceive, has it later been re-purposed in a deceptive role - that needs to be considered and noted as well. Next you have to consider what role it may actually play in "today's" numismatic world. A counterfeit (at least to me) is an illicit copy of legal tender created to deceive. Forgery is a similar term with negative connotations covering a larger range of non-official doings. If it's a non-nefarious "copy" for whatever purpose it was created, then you also need to consider why it was created and whether it was an approved or accepted copy - eg: a significant percentage of the extant stock of reduced majorinae of the fallen horseman FEL TEMP REPARATIO were contemporary copies and not produced by official mints but circulated side-by-side with the official issues they emulated. Many potentially very deceptive copies are produced and sold as copies. They might currently be being promoted and offered as authentic and original which changes their use, but not their initial nature. Many ancient copies were not made to deceive anyone - they were produced as a local stopgap effort to provide the cash necessary to keep trade alive in times of scarcity of official coinage. The "Limes Falsa" copies of 1st century AE's in Britain and northern Europe were similarly created to fill a vacuum created by a lack of official coinage - they certainly weren't made with the intention to fool anyone into thinking they were the official item. Some pieces were meant to be deceiving in antiquity, but those are primarily items like the foil-wrapped fourrèes, obviously made to deceive. The one word which is virtually meaningless in all of this discussion is "FAKE" which means nothing at all without considering the origins, the presumptive motivation and intended use implied in the creation of any non-official mint issue.[/QUOTE]
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