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<p>[QUOTE="sand, post: 8233951, member: 118540"]I'm no expert on the subject, but it seems to me, like there are 3 possible reasons for edge filing, of an ancient coin.</p><p>1. The edge of the flan was filed in antiquity, before the coin was struck. Or, in the case of cast coins, after the coin was cast. I don't know, how often this happened. If I remember correctly, some ancient struck coin types, were known, to have the flans' edges filed, before being struck. I don't know, if your coin, is one of those known struck types. One ancient coin type, that I know for sure, had its edges filed, is certain ancient Chinese cast coins, whose edges were filed, after being cast. If your struck coin, were one of such types, then it seems like, probably NGC would know about it, and would tell you about it, in the NGC body bag comments.</p><p>2. Someone clumsily/inexpertly cleaned the edge of the coin, using sandpaper or a file, and created the file marks that way. Sometimes, such "cleaning marks" or "cleaning scratches", also happen, on the obverse or reverse of an ancient coin. Cleaning scratches are never desirable, but they are especially worrisome, if they are on the edge of an ancient coin.</p><p>3. The coin is a cast fake, and someone filed or sandpapered the edge of the coin, to hide the casting seam.</p><p><br /></p><p>In any case, it seems like, a reputable auction house, would write "Edge Filing" in the auction listing, and would explain in the auction listing, if the coin were of a type known to have had its edges filed before being struck.</p><p>However, even reputable auction houses, sometimes miss things, like tooling or edge filing, or even fakes.</p><p>The NGC Ancients persons have an excellent reputation. Therefore, a reputable auction house would strongly consider the NGC statement, that the coin has edge filing, although the auction house may want to examine the coin to double check the edge filing.</p><p>I recommend, that you double check, using a Loupe or microscope, to see if you can see the edge filing.</p><p>If you find edge filing, then take photos, of the edge filing, if you can.</p><p>If there is edge filing on the coin, then it seems like, a reputable auction house, would refund your money, because edge filing should be noted in the auction listing, just like tooling should be.</p><p>Also, I recommend, that you search the Forum Ancient Coins "Fake Coin Reports", to see if the coin matches a known fake.</p><p>And also, I recommend, that you search ACsearch, and compare your coin, versus the ACsearch examples, to see if your coin has any differences, that are not on any of the ACsearch examples, which may indicate, that the coin is fake.</p><p>Perhaps, other CoinTalk persons, will have better advice, than my non-expert advice.</p><p>[ATTACH=full]1448105[/ATTACH][/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="sand, post: 8233951, member: 118540"]I'm no expert on the subject, but it seems to me, like there are 3 possible reasons for edge filing, of an ancient coin. 1. The edge of the flan was filed in antiquity, before the coin was struck. Or, in the case of cast coins, after the coin was cast. I don't know, how often this happened. If I remember correctly, some ancient struck coin types, were known, to have the flans' edges filed, before being struck. I don't know, if your coin, is one of those known struck types. One ancient coin type, that I know for sure, had its edges filed, is certain ancient Chinese cast coins, whose edges were filed, after being cast. If your struck coin, were one of such types, then it seems like, probably NGC would know about it, and would tell you about it, in the NGC body bag comments. 2. Someone clumsily/inexpertly cleaned the edge of the coin, using sandpaper or a file, and created the file marks that way. Sometimes, such "cleaning marks" or "cleaning scratches", also happen, on the obverse or reverse of an ancient coin. Cleaning scratches are never desirable, but they are especially worrisome, if they are on the edge of an ancient coin. 3. The coin is a cast fake, and someone filed or sandpapered the edge of the coin, to hide the casting seam. In any case, it seems like, a reputable auction house, would write "Edge Filing" in the auction listing, and would explain in the auction listing, if the coin were of a type known to have had its edges filed before being struck. However, even reputable auction houses, sometimes miss things, like tooling or edge filing, or even fakes. The NGC Ancients persons have an excellent reputation. Therefore, a reputable auction house would strongly consider the NGC statement, that the coin has edge filing, although the auction house may want to examine the coin to double check the edge filing. I recommend, that you double check, using a Loupe or microscope, to see if you can see the edge filing. If you find edge filing, then take photos, of the edge filing, if you can. If there is edge filing on the coin, then it seems like, a reputable auction house, would refund your money, because edge filing should be noted in the auction listing, just like tooling should be. Also, I recommend, that you search the Forum Ancient Coins "Fake Coin Reports", to see if the coin matches a known fake. And also, I recommend, that you search ACsearch, and compare your coin, versus the ACsearch examples, to see if your coin has any differences, that are not on any of the ACsearch examples, which may indicate, that the coin is fake. Perhaps, other CoinTalk persons, will have better advice, than my non-expert advice. [ATTACH=full]1448105[/ATTACH][/QUOTE]
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