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<p>[QUOTE="Troodon, post: 4028954, member: 4626"]Wow, we're going here again... surprised this hasn't gotten locked yet lol, it usually does when people try to bring this subject up, since it's impossible to discuss it without politics and/or religion coming up. But I guess it's fair game for now, since the subject's been brought up, so here I go:</p><p><br /></p><p>I kind of agree with a radio show host who said "I couldn't care less if my money says 'screw you' on it as long as it still spends the same." (For the record I'm a Protestant Christian and politically essentially libertarian.) It doesn't offend me by being there. I don't think there's anything unconstitutional about it being there; the Constitution says Congress may not establish a religion, not that they may not endorse one. Since you can spend the money whether you agree with the sentiment of the motto or not, I don't see how it constitutes establishment. (People who argue that it does I think would arguably have a case if the motto was "Trust In God." But the motto doesn't obligate you to do anything or tell you do anything, so I don't think they have a leg to stand on there. Establishment means there's some sort of legal penalty for choosing not to comply. And well, there isn't any such thing here.)</p><p><br /></p><p>That being said it wouldn't bother me much if it was removed if it bothers a significant number of people (and by "significant" I mean more than half of eligible US voters) decided they'd rather it not be there.</p><p><br /></p><p>So count me as either "weak support keeping it" or "indifferent," kind of leaning to the latter.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="Troodon, post: 4028954, member: 4626"]Wow, we're going here again... surprised this hasn't gotten locked yet lol, it usually does when people try to bring this subject up, since it's impossible to discuss it without politics and/or religion coming up. But I guess it's fair game for now, since the subject's been brought up, so here I go: I kind of agree with a radio show host who said "I couldn't care less if my money says 'screw you' on it as long as it still spends the same." (For the record I'm a Protestant Christian and politically essentially libertarian.) It doesn't offend me by being there. I don't think there's anything unconstitutional about it being there; the Constitution says Congress may not establish a religion, not that they may not endorse one. Since you can spend the money whether you agree with the sentiment of the motto or not, I don't see how it constitutes establishment. (People who argue that it does I think would arguably have a case if the motto was "Trust In God." But the motto doesn't obligate you to do anything or tell you do anything, so I don't think they have a leg to stand on there. Establishment means there's some sort of legal penalty for choosing not to comply. And well, there isn't any such thing here.) That being said it wouldn't bother me much if it was removed if it bothers a significant number of people (and by "significant" I mean more than half of eligible US voters) decided they'd rather it not be there. So count me as either "weak support keeping it" or "indifferent," kind of leaning to the latter.[/QUOTE]
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