In God We Rust

Based on what I've read in the rest of the thread, he'd still get $20 to $75, because most people don't read auction descriptions very closely.

Of all the ways grease-filled dies can manifest themselves, I imagine those that neatly fill letters without disrupting the design bring the highest premiums. If they do such that a different word is left behind, all the better. Filled mint marks, better yet (especially if a TPG misses it). I still can't figure out how to justify $75 for a filled state quarter, though.

 

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Let me tell you something. You don't know me. Don't act like you do. I've got 4 kids that all depend on me keeping them clothed, fed, educated, clean, warm on cold nights.....if I can make enough to buy ONE dinner in my house by selling somebody something they want then I'm going to do it. In addition to being there for my family, I also volunteer as a firefighter every chance I get so I can be there for my community. I have literally ran into a burning building for someone while they were yelling at me because we took longer, than they thought we should, to get there.

So if you are going to misrepresent my morals then let me know so I can block you from being involved in what I do here. You can kiss my you-know-what.

 

It's just like these star notes. They are worth the face value of them, but if you get one that's a "radar" or one with a low serial number, some people will pay a lot of money for them, even though in reality they are merely worth face value. Again, I wouldn't misrepresent a coin, such as my 1972 MD. I would list it as machine doubled and if someone decided they wanted to pay me $100 for it, I would not turn it down.

 

You may volunteer as a firefighter and work hard to support your family, but that has nothing to do with your ethics in the numismatic community. However, since you raised the subject about firefighting, I'd like to ask you if you ever go out in your community to try to teach fire prevention methods or do you just say, "If they're uneducated, it's their tough luck."?

Block me if you want. I will still be able to respond to your comments for others to read.

Chris

 

Of course I do.

And I try to teach as many people as possible about numismatics every day. I love the hobby. But I don't do that on eBay. If the people that bid on the coin can figure out eBay then I'm sure they can figure out Google. It's a retail environment, not a library.

Let me give you a quick look at how most retail stores work.

1. Find something people want
2. Sell it

It's that simple.

If you owned a flower shop would you tell every customer that they can find most of the things you sell for free in the woods?

 

If you wouldn't pay the money yourself, you've no foundation upon which to base an argument on why people should. "I wouldn't be taken advantage of by this, but I'll sure as heck do it to you."

 

I don't want this to go another 6 pages or even another one. Yes Numisrookie, you can do what you decide and no one can counteract it, you have your reasons. Others, it is his moral decision what to do, and the points you raised are good, but it isn't your decision and I doubt you could convince him no more than he could convince you. I would put it into a labeled flip and put it into a Salvation Army kettle and let them make a decision as they sell odd donations on the internet, but I don't have 4 kids to support. So lets drop it before the evil elves of the season start chanting. Myself it isn't strong enough to be worth even $5.

 

I wouldn't own a flower shop. Cut flowers die!

Chris

 

I don't know if I would say "most", but even if some do, they're not likely to presented as being anything more than a novelty and priced accordingly. Please try to understand that any demand for plated coins is due to ignorance. They are, at best, a novelty usually purchased by those who don't know any better, often as gifts. No one in their right mind is going to knowingly pay the outrageous prices initially asked for such things just because they "like" them.

If you've ever bought flowers or been in the woods, you should know the argument is false; there's a difference between dandelions and roses, and any woman will certainly tell you as much.

If by "retail stores" you mean the average establishment that sells manufactured products, it's a poor comparison. No one walks into wally world thinking that plastic shoe organizer is some sort of "steal" today and will be worth a small fortune tomorrow, but this happens all day every day with coins. Look at this very forum and how often threads appear in which the OP cares about one thing; value. Have you noticed how most of such questions result from nothing more than a coin looking "different" to an untrained eye? The reasons behind what you see here are the same why you may see such minor nothings selling for ridiculous money on the bay: the assumption that because it looks different, it therefore must be valuable.

You're fairly new, so perhaps ask yourself how you would feel if, not that long ago, you paid $20-$70 or whatever for a coin that turned out to be near worthless. Would the experience have helped grow your interest in this hobby? I highly doubt it, so why take the chance that you're doing it to someone else if you, in fact, care about your hobby? Just because every other schlub is doing it, this doesn't mean it's okay or that caring participants should jump on board.

I like you, NR, and believe you to be a sincere individual, so don't take any of this the wrong way. If you want to sell, go right ahead, but describe it properly. Make the effort to tell potential buyers that the "error" is both minor, quite common, and carries little in the way of a premium. If you do this and someone pays you, say, $15, that's on them, but if you don't truthfully describe, the only reason I can see would be in hoping to take advantage of someone who is in the same shoes that you recently were.