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<p>[QUOTE="kaparthy, post: 20068, member: 57463"]eBay always seemed like "a good idea." I never bought anythng there. I do not know anything about the millions of other kinds of sales that take place; for coins, the situation is grim. All I know is what people like you report.</p><p><br /></p><p>1. Anonymity. Buyers and sellers are protected from having their identities revealed. In the real world, when you meet someone, you might never learn their name, but you can see their physical nature. In the realworld establishing a new identity is somewhat complicated. New usernames on eBay are pretty easy to come by, apparently.</p><p><br /></p><p>2. Low opportunity cost. Selling in most other venues requires more overhead and thus is a barrier to those who will not make some investment in what they do. Advertising is usually a significant cost of a mail-order business and buying advertising means revealing yourself. For a bricks and mortar store front, the seller has an even greater investment and therefore an inherent need for longterm relationships with individuals and communitiies. None of these applies to eBay with its low cost and low risk and quick profits.</p><p><br /></p><p>3. More basic than these is the fact that many (perhaps most) Americans are mollycoddled by a tame enterprise system where the government, the Better Business Bureau, the Chamber of Commerce, and Consumer Reports are just some of the watchdogs. Those enforcers and tattlers are needed only for those businesses that will not control their own actions as their standard operating policies. The result is that we do not take responsibility for ourselves. If we get cheated, we fall back in kindergarten mode and tell the teacher that Johnny was mean to us. When I get cheated -- and it happens -- I just never go back there. My actions are my responsibility.</p><p><br /></p><p>4. I once got a report of a less-than-helpful coin dealer in my area. In fact, one of the founding members of the local club said he would quit if Dealer X were allowed to join. I put on workman's clothes, stopped in at Dealer X with a mixed array of commons and a couple of interesting pieces. He lived down to the expectations. I did not do a lot of shopping there over the years... but I did some. KNowing the risks, I accepted the responsibility. Over the years, also, he has become a much nicer guy. I watch him at shows and he is a dealer, which is to be expected, but he is way more toward the center of the road and has become a responsible member of the dealer community. Of course, his name was not "zippiecoins@internet.com" so basically, the free enterprise system was able to work its magic on him.</p><p><br /></p><p>The point of 4. above is that you get report after report after report of fraud on eBay and still you go back there. Stop hitting yourself in the head with a board and your headache will go away.</p><p><br /></p><p>Also -- bottom line -- over time, eBay, Yahoo, etc., may well be impelled to excellence by the free market. It will not come about by tattling to the teacher. The Invisible Hand of Adam Smith needs time.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="kaparthy, post: 20068, member: 57463"]eBay always seemed like "a good idea." I never bought anythng there. I do not know anything about the millions of other kinds of sales that take place; for coins, the situation is grim. All I know is what people like you report. 1. Anonymity. Buyers and sellers are protected from having their identities revealed. In the real world, when you meet someone, you might never learn their name, but you can see their physical nature. In the realworld establishing a new identity is somewhat complicated. New usernames on eBay are pretty easy to come by, apparently. 2. Low opportunity cost. Selling in most other venues requires more overhead and thus is a barrier to those who will not make some investment in what they do. Advertising is usually a significant cost of a mail-order business and buying advertising means revealing yourself. For a bricks and mortar store front, the seller has an even greater investment and therefore an inherent need for longterm relationships with individuals and communitiies. None of these applies to eBay with its low cost and low risk and quick profits. 3. More basic than these is the fact that many (perhaps most) Americans are mollycoddled by a tame enterprise system where the government, the Better Business Bureau, the Chamber of Commerce, and Consumer Reports are just some of the watchdogs. Those enforcers and tattlers are needed only for those businesses that will not control their own actions as their standard operating policies. The result is that we do not take responsibility for ourselves. If we get cheated, we fall back in kindergarten mode and tell the teacher that Johnny was mean to us. When I get cheated -- and it happens -- I just never go back there. My actions are my responsibility. 4. I once got a report of a less-than-helpful coin dealer in my area. In fact, one of the founding members of the local club said he would quit if Dealer X were allowed to join. I put on workman's clothes, stopped in at Dealer X with a mixed array of commons and a couple of interesting pieces. He lived down to the expectations. I did not do a lot of shopping there over the years... but I did some. KNowing the risks, I accepted the responsibility. Over the years, also, he has become a much nicer guy. I watch him at shows and he is a dealer, which is to be expected, but he is way more toward the center of the road and has become a responsible member of the dealer community. Of course, his name was not "zippiecoins@internet.com" so basically, the free enterprise system was able to work its magic on him. The point of 4. above is that you get report after report after report of fraud on eBay and still you go back there. Stop hitting yourself in the head with a board and your headache will go away. Also -- bottom line -- over time, eBay, Yahoo, etc., may well be impelled to excellence by the free market. It will not come about by tattling to the teacher. The Invisible Hand of Adam Smith needs time.[/QUOTE]
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