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<p>[QUOTE="FitzNigel, post: 4891436, member: 74712"]Many of my coins have it. They are afraid that they’ll be found out to be fakes and phonies. Well, they aren’t fakes (I hope...), but many of them are phonies. I’ve come to realize I have a soft spot for imitations. I often discover a coin imitating another design and think “cool - I’ll grab this one, and eventual buy one of the originals to have a neat little pair.” And then I never buy the original.</p><p><br /></p><p>So here are my imposters - please pile on with your own!</p><p>[ATTACH=full]1180488[/ATTACH]</p><p>Indo-Roman</p><p>Anonymous 5th C. A.D.</p><p>AE Naimana Type, 13.12mm x 0.7 grams</p><p>Obv.: Bust right, with dots representing legend</p><p>Rev.: Cross within wreath</p><p>Ref.: (Mitchiner #5171)</p><p>Note: An imitation of Roman coinage</p><p><br /></p><p>[ATTACH=full]1180491[/ATTACH] Early Medieval - Carolingian Imitation</p><p>Viking / East Francia?, 10th c. (900-920s)</p><p>AR Denier, 20.92 mm x 0.9 grams</p><p>Obv.: Blundered legends surrounding Degenerate CAROLVS monogram</p><p>Rev.: Nonsense legend surrounding cross pattee. Perhaps imitating an issue of Curtisasonien</p><p>Ref.: Moesgaard, ‘A Survey of Coin Production and Currency in Normandy,’ 99-109</p><p>Ex. Todd Hansen Collection, purchased from Superior Stamp and Coin</p><p>Note: Imitating a GDR (Gratia Dei Rex) denier of Charles the Bald (but likely an immobilized issue of Charles the Simple)</p><p><br /></p><p>[ATTACH=full]1180492[/ATTACH]</p><p>Early Medieval - Carolingian Normandy</p><p>Anonymous (Viking/Rollo-William Longsword), 10th c. (920s)</p><p>AR Denier, 16mm x 0.57 grams</p><p>Obv.: Counterclockwise legend +DOVVICVSIMP around small cross</p><p>Rev.: Clockwise legend XRISTIANA REL around temple</p><p>Note: Imitation of a Louis the Pious denier</p><p><br /></p><p>[ATTACH=full]1180496[/ATTACH]</p><p>HRE - Osnabrück</p><p>Bishop Konrad I von Velber, r. 1227-1239 (1236-39)</p><p>AR Pfenning, 17.71 mm x 1 gram</p><p>Obv.: SANCT' PE[T']. Head of St. Peter facing holding key</p><p>Rev.: +CON[RAD]VS EPC'. Voided short cross with quatrefoil in each angle</p><p>Ref.: De Wit 1837 variety, (Kennepohl 51)</p><p>Note: Imitation of Short Cross Sterling. Supposedly of Henry III</p><p><br /></p><p>[ATTACH=full]1180502[/ATTACH]</p><p>Scandinavia (?)</p><p>English Imitation, 11th c.</p><p>AR Penny, 17.53 mm x 1.7 grams</p><p>Obv.: Bust right, scepter right, imitating Æthelred II ‘Crux’ type</p><p>Rev.: Short cross pattée, imitating Æthelred II Short Cross type</p><p><br /></p><p>[ATTACH=full]1180503[/ATTACH]</p><p>Bulgaria</p><p>Ivan Alexander, r. 1331-1371 (1340-1365)</p><p>Trnovo mint, AR Groši, 19.63 mm x 1.1 grams</p><p>Obv.: Christ standing in front of throne, both hands raised in benediction. IC - XC on either side of head. Monograms for Alexander and Tsar on either side of his body above the throne</p><p>Rev.: Ivan Alexander left and son Michael Asen right wearing stemma & holding cross scepters. Long staff between topped with a banner. Monograms for ‘Alexander’ and ‘Tsar’ on either side at top, and monograms for ‘pious’ and ‘Michael’ in the fields</p><p>Ref.: MSCB Bulgaria 9.1.2; De Wit 3905 (as Asen I)</p><p>Ex. Harlan J. Berk</p><p>Note: Type B or C clipped to fit the weight of Type D (but in surprisingly good condition, as if uncirculated). Imitative of a Venetian Grosso</p><p><br /></p><p>[ATTACH=full]1180507[/ATTACH] Italy - Rome</p><p>Roman Senate, c. 12-13th C.</p><p>AR Denier, 17.26 mm x 0.9 grams</p><p>Obv.: [RO]M[A CAPVT] MV[N]. Legend beginning at 3hr. Comb center, S above with sun to left and moon to right</p><p>Rev.: [SENATVS . P.O.R.]. Cross patee, 1st q. moon, 2nd q. pellet, 3rd q. star, 4th q. V</p><p>Ref.: Roberts 4733 Variety</p><p>Note: Imitative of Champagne</p><p><br /></p><p>[ATTACH=full]1180510[/ATTACH]</p><p>Norman Italy - Apulia</p><p>temp. Roger Borsa, r. 1085-1111</p><p>AE Follis, 19.08 mm x 2.2 grams</p><p>Obv.: Bust of Christ facing, cross behind, wearing pallium and Colvin , raising right hand in benediction, Gospels in left, crescent above, IC - XC flanking</p><p>Rev.: Cross with globule and two pellets at each extremity, large crescent below, four globules around each surrounded by pellets</p><p>Note: Imitative of a Byzantine Anonymous Follis, Class J. Found in Southern Italy. It cannot be earlier than 1081, but my attribution to Roger Borsa in Apulia is due to coins of a similar weight and size from this time and region</p><p><br /></p><p>[ATTACH=full]1180513[/ATTACH]</p><p>Zangid of Syria</p><p>Nur al-Din Mahmud, r. 541-569 AH (1146-1174)</p><p>Halab (Aleppo) Mint, AE Fals, 24.91 mm x 4.4 grams</p><p>Obv.: Two Byzantine style figures holding labarum between, name and titles of Nur al-Din Mahmud, and blundered Greek legends in field</p><p>Rev.: Christ standing facing, holding gospels, titles of Nur al-Din Mahmud, and blundered Greek legends in field</p><p>Ref.: Album 1850 (S/S.73. M.1132.)</p><p>Note: Imitative of a Byzantine issue of Constantine X (SBCV 1853)[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="FitzNigel, post: 4891436, member: 74712"]Many of my coins have it. They are afraid that they’ll be found out to be fakes and phonies. Well, they aren’t fakes (I hope...), but many of them are phonies. I’ve come to realize I have a soft spot for imitations. I often discover a coin imitating another design and think “cool - I’ll grab this one, and eventual buy one of the originals to have a neat little pair.” And then I never buy the original. So here are my imposters - please pile on with your own! [ATTACH=full]1180488[/ATTACH] Indo-Roman Anonymous 5th C. A.D. AE Naimana Type, 13.12mm x 0.7 grams Obv.: Bust right, with dots representing legend Rev.: Cross within wreath Ref.: (Mitchiner #5171) Note: An imitation of Roman coinage [ATTACH=full]1180491[/ATTACH] Early Medieval - Carolingian Imitation Viking / East Francia?, 10th c. (900-920s) AR Denier, 20.92 mm x 0.9 grams Obv.: Blundered legends surrounding Degenerate CAROLVS monogram Rev.: Nonsense legend surrounding cross pattee. Perhaps imitating an issue of Curtisasonien Ref.: Moesgaard, ‘A Survey of Coin Production and Currency in Normandy,’ 99-109 Ex. Todd Hansen Collection, purchased from Superior Stamp and Coin Note: Imitating a GDR (Gratia Dei Rex) denier of Charles the Bald (but likely an immobilized issue of Charles the Simple) [ATTACH=full]1180492[/ATTACH] Early Medieval - Carolingian Normandy Anonymous (Viking/Rollo-William Longsword), 10th c. (920s) AR Denier, 16mm x 0.57 grams Obv.: Counterclockwise legend +DOVVICVSIMP around small cross Rev.: Clockwise legend XRISTIANA REL around temple Note: Imitation of a Louis the Pious denier [ATTACH=full]1180496[/ATTACH] HRE - Osnabrück Bishop Konrad I von Velber, r. 1227-1239 (1236-39) AR Pfenning, 17.71 mm x 1 gram Obv.: SANCT' PE[T']. Head of St. Peter facing holding key Rev.: +CON[RAD]VS EPC'. Voided short cross with quatrefoil in each angle Ref.: De Wit 1837 variety, (Kennepohl 51) Note: Imitation of Short Cross Sterling. Supposedly of Henry III [ATTACH=full]1180502[/ATTACH] Scandinavia (?) English Imitation, 11th c. AR Penny, 17.53 mm x 1.7 grams Obv.: Bust right, scepter right, imitating Æthelred II ‘Crux’ type Rev.: Short cross pattée, imitating Æthelred II Short Cross type [ATTACH=full]1180503[/ATTACH] Bulgaria Ivan Alexander, r. 1331-1371 (1340-1365) Trnovo mint, AR Groši, 19.63 mm x 1.1 grams Obv.: Christ standing in front of throne, both hands raised in benediction. IC - XC on either side of head. Monograms for Alexander and Tsar on either side of his body above the throne Rev.: Ivan Alexander left and son Michael Asen right wearing stemma & holding cross scepters. Long staff between topped with a banner. Monograms for ‘Alexander’ and ‘Tsar’ on either side at top, and monograms for ‘pious’ and ‘Michael’ in the fields Ref.: MSCB Bulgaria 9.1.2; De Wit 3905 (as Asen I) Ex. Harlan J. Berk Note: Type B or C clipped to fit the weight of Type D (but in surprisingly good condition, as if uncirculated). Imitative of a Venetian Grosso [ATTACH=full]1180507[/ATTACH] Italy - Rome Roman Senate, c. 12-13th C. AR Denier, 17.26 mm x 0.9 grams Obv.: [RO]M[A CAPVT] MV[N]. Legend beginning at 3hr. Comb center, S above with sun to left and moon to right Rev.: [SENATVS . P.O.R.]. Cross patee, 1st q. moon, 2nd q. pellet, 3rd q. star, 4th q. V Ref.: Roberts 4733 Variety Note: Imitative of Champagne [ATTACH=full]1180510[/ATTACH] Norman Italy - Apulia temp. Roger Borsa, r. 1085-1111 AE Follis, 19.08 mm x 2.2 grams Obv.: Bust of Christ facing, cross behind, wearing pallium and Colvin , raising right hand in benediction, Gospels in left, crescent above, IC - XC flanking Rev.: Cross with globule and two pellets at each extremity, large crescent below, four globules around each surrounded by pellets Note: Imitative of a Byzantine Anonymous Follis, Class J. Found in Southern Italy. It cannot be earlier than 1081, but my attribution to Roger Borsa in Apulia is due to coins of a similar weight and size from this time and region [ATTACH=full]1180513[/ATTACH] Zangid of Syria Nur al-Din Mahmud, r. 541-569 AH (1146-1174) Halab (Aleppo) Mint, AE Fals, 24.91 mm x 4.4 grams Obv.: Two Byzantine style figures holding labarum between, name and titles of Nur al-Din Mahmud, and blundered Greek legends in field Rev.: Christ standing facing, holding gospels, titles of Nur al-Din Mahmud, and blundered Greek legends in field Ref.: Album 1850 (S/S.73. M.1132.) Note: Imitative of a Byzantine issue of Constantine X (SBCV 1853)[/QUOTE]
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