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<p>[QUOTE="BenSi, post: 8079117, member: 95174"][ATTACH=full]1402653[/ATTACH]</p><p>19mm 2.85gm</p><p>A was lucky enough to have this coin pointed out to be from one of our most observant fellow collectors [USER=103515]@catadc[/USER] . Thank You Sir.</p><p><br /></p><p>I won this coin last Sunday and I have the coin in hand now (Thank You Savocca). The details match a normal issue of Manuel I Comnenus , who had a long rule and whose coinage is abundant. When I say the details, I mean everything but the reverse, <u>this coin has <b>NI KA</b> added to the cross.</u></p><p><br /></p><p>Now imitations are normally crude, you can find errors in the clothing and the details are in a much cruder fashion, this one someone put a lot of time and effort to creating it, the die is worn, and the coin was not well struck, however, it is superior to most of the imitation tetartera that were created.</p><p><br /></p><p>Imitation tetartera exists mostly of Alexius tetartera and Manuel tetartera, not the other rulers, both had long reigns, also evidence shows the imitation tetartera were created long after the reigns of these emperors and in the beginning of the 13th century.</p><p><br /></p><p>Has anyone on the board seen another example of this coin with the NIKA on the reverse of SBCV-1976?</p><p><br /></p><p>Julian bakers book lists many imitation tetartera but none of them are of SBCV-1976.</p><p><br /></p><p>So is this an imitation? Or is this in the lower weight, official issue from Thessalonica? Advice and or opinions are appreciated.</p><p><br /></p><p>Here is a beautiful large example version of the same issue. Official.</p><p><br /></p><p>[ATTACH=full]1402654[/ATTACH]</p><p><br /></p><p> MANUEL AE TETARTERON S-1976 DOC 19 CLBC 4.4.6OBV Radiate cross on three steps.</p><p><br /></p><p>REV. Half-length figure of emperor, bearded, wearing stemma, divitision, collar piece, and jeweled loros of a simplified type; holds in r. hand labarum on laft shaft and in l. Globus cruciger.</p><p><br /></p><p>Size 24mm</p><p><br /></p><p>Weight 5.78gm</p><p><br /></p><p>Very nice example on a large flan.</p><p>.</p><p>DOC lists 24 examples with weights from 18mm to 25mm and weights from 2.55 to 6.54 gm</p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>Btw, my feeling right now is it is a newly discovered imitation, not official, but again that is why I ask if anyone else has seen something similar.</p><p>Thank You![/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="BenSi, post: 8079117, member: 95174"][ATTACH=full]1402653[/ATTACH] 19mm 2.85gm A was lucky enough to have this coin pointed out to be from one of our most observant fellow collectors [USER=103515]@catadc[/USER] . Thank You Sir. I won this coin last Sunday and I have the coin in hand now (Thank You Savocca). The details match a normal issue of Manuel I Comnenus , who had a long rule and whose coinage is abundant. When I say the details, I mean everything but the reverse, [U]this coin has [B]NI KA[/B] added to the cross.[/U] Now imitations are normally crude, you can find errors in the clothing and the details are in a much cruder fashion, this one someone put a lot of time and effort to creating it, the die is worn, and the coin was not well struck, however, it is superior to most of the imitation tetartera that were created. Imitation tetartera exists mostly of Alexius tetartera and Manuel tetartera, not the other rulers, both had long reigns, also evidence shows the imitation tetartera were created long after the reigns of these emperors and in the beginning of the 13th century. Has anyone on the board seen another example of this coin with the NIKA on the reverse of SBCV-1976? Julian bakers book lists many imitation tetartera but none of them are of SBCV-1976. So is this an imitation? Or is this in the lower weight, official issue from Thessalonica? Advice and or opinions are appreciated. Here is a beautiful large example version of the same issue. Official. [ATTACH=full]1402654[/ATTACH] MANUEL AE TETARTERON S-1976 DOC 19 CLBC 4.4.6OBV Radiate cross on three steps. REV. Half-length figure of emperor, bearded, wearing stemma, divitision, collar piece, and jeweled loros of a simplified type; holds in r. hand labarum on laft shaft and in l. Globus cruciger. Size 24mm Weight 5.78gm Very nice example on a large flan. . DOC lists 24 examples with weights from 18mm to 25mm and weights from 2.55 to 6.54 gm Btw, my feeling right now is it is a newly discovered imitation, not official, but again that is why I ask if anyone else has seen something similar. Thank You![/QUOTE]
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