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Message:: [QUOTE="Ed Snible, post: 2761338, member: 82322"]I don't have an example of the coin.  I bid on one at an <a href="https://www.agoraauctions.com/aegean/listing/viewdetail/1768/0/archive" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://www.agoraauctions.com/aegean/listing/viewdetail/1768/0/archive" rel="nofollow">Aegean Numismatics auction</a>  but didn't win.  When [USER=72712]@arnoldoe[/USER] identified the type and I saw a clear obverse I was surprised because that type had not occurred to me at all. I do have an example of MacDonald's book!  I recommended it.  I don't have it handy but recall a lot of great color pictures and discussions about what specific patterns of undertype/overtype tell us about ancient economies. I do have some overstruck coins where I have identified the undertype.  Here is an AE16 that I don't know if it was overstruck or counterstamped:[ATTACH=full]634657[/ATTACH]The undertype is this: <a href="https://www.cngcoins.com/Coin.aspx?CoinID=51927" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://www.cngcoins.com/Coin.aspx?CoinID=51927" rel="nofollow">https://www.cngcoins.com/Coin.aspx?CoinID=51927</a>Obscuring that is a 7mm helmet/gorgoneion impression.  However, there is no gorgon/helmet 7mm coin!  Gorgoneion countermarks are known but usually the countermarking was done against a blank anvil. I found it quite difficult to figure out the host coin![/QUOTE]