I'm going to show you just the obverse of this Lincoln...

Discussion in 'US Coins Forum' started by BadThad, Apr 15, 2009.

  1. coinman0456

    coinman0456 Coin Collector

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  3. jello

    jello Not Expert★NormL®

    Great catch!!!MS-66RB for sure
     
  4. Louie_Two_Bits

    Louie_Two_Bits Chump for Change

    I was expecting to see a monstrosity on the reverse the way you played it up, but all looks wonderful to me. With the scattered nicks on the edge and rim, the one scratch in the obverse field and then the two carbon marks on the reverse field/portrait, I would say ms64.

    Did you find this in one of your brink boxes?

    But what a wonderful coin...a real piece of art...thanks for sharing!

    -LTB
     
  5. BadThad

    BadThad Calibrated for Lincolns

    No, I took one of my rare "rolls of the dice" on ebay, the pics were horrible but I thought I saw some luster...only paid high AU money for it, so I'm happy.
     
  6. Louie_Two_Bits

    Louie_Two_Bits Chump for Change

    Great deal!

    And I don't want to derail this thread, but how do you take your pictures of your coins? Do you just use the macro camera setting, do you use camera+magnifying glass, or do you have an expensive prof setup? You always seem to capture the exquisite detail and color.

    -LTB
     
  7. rlm's cents

    rlm's cents Numismatist

    I was also expecting something much worse. I still think I am seeing some rubs on the obverse. Assuming that the coin is unc, I would only grade it 64RB due to the nicks on the obverse rim (mostly) and spots on the reverse.
     
  8. BadThad

    BadThad Calibrated for Lincolns

    Thanks for the kind words....my secret is simple, take a lot of pictures. LOL

    I use a cheap Canon SD700IS in macro mode. I take all my pictures free hand and I move my main FS light around to different positions. I have three light sources: a full spectrum (FS) $20 lamp (Lowes), a $20 "natural" light desk lamp, and an overhead 75W flood lamp (recessed into my ceiling).

    I've found most people have trouble because they simply do not fill the frame with the coin. Also, they aren't using the optical zoom feature. ALL of my pictures are taken between 2.2x and 3.4x optical zoom. This allows me to fill the frame with the coin, yet maintain enough distance to allow light onto the coin surface. Also important is white balance calibration, I calibrate a LOT, several times during the shoot session. Also, depending on the coin surface, I may adjust the exposure level.
     
  9. BadThad

    BadThad Calibrated for Lincolns

    There's no wear or rubs on the coin, if you're seeing it, it's an artifact of my photography.....no picture is perfect. I too net graded the coin at 64RB, but mainly due to the carbon spots. The saddest part of this old coot is the altered surfaces that would prevent any TPG from grading it. I think a lot of the previous owners tried to take off the carbon spots.....which us hardcore Lincoln collectors know is impossible without damaging the coin.
     
  10. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator

    Was my first thought - altered surfaces, perhaps even whizzed. But if it was, they certainly did a good job of it.

    edit - ahhh, I see from your later posts Thad you thought the same thing.
     
  11. spock1k

    spock1k King of Hearts

    faster GD post faster at this rate it will take us years to learn anything and we r trying to make up for lost time :D
     
  12. BadThad

    BadThad Calibrated for Lincolns

    What do you guys think about retoning this coin? I've been thinking of giving it my window sill treatment for a few months to brown it.
     
  13. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator

    No amount of toning will ever hide that build up of material at the edge of the bust. Sell it, marked appropriately - and move on.
     
  14. asciibaron

    asciibaron /dev/work/null

    i'm going to say this is an AU - no way it's MS anything. ;)
     
  15. BadThad

    BadThad Calibrated for Lincolns

    I'm not trying to hide anything, just make the coin a more attractive and natural color. I don't want to sell it, this the highest detail 1921 I've ever seen.
     
  16. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator

    Didn't mean to imply that you were, just making an observation. Think I'd try a coin envelope if you wish to change the color.
     
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