I'm fairly confident I have a new variety of a 1833 capped bust half

Yes, Z it looks like you may have. But as Frank stated... The Hard Part is getting Don Parsley to listen. I've sent him info twice about a new 1808 variety which was verified as such by members of the BHNC and he's still not replied...

Let me know if you have any luck.

Ben

 

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Ben,
Have you tried contacting Sheridan Downey? I know he has contributed to the book quite a bit, and I am thinking about trying to get him to take a look, as perhaps he can get Parsley to take a look. I also saw that NGC verified a discovery coin, and simply assigned it the next sequential overton number, perhaps I could try that route as well.

 

Yes, he was CC'd as well on the 2nd time. It just takes time I guess and when I'm in a position to 'lobby' (mbr of the BHNC) maybe we can get our coins looked at. Until then, good luck...

Take Care
Ben

 

zaneman,

You might consider contacting Dr. Glenn Peterson from Knoxville, Tennessee as he wrote a book on Attributing Capped Bust Half Dollars that was released by Money Tree Press! I have met Dr. Peterson, I am sure that he would be interested in your new find and that he could make the contacts to get it attributed.


Frank

 

Thanks for the tip Frank. :thumb:
I found a physical address for him, do you happen to have a phone number or email address where I can reach him? (if you do, please PM it to me, rather than post it)

 

Ben, Frank etc,
Do you happen to know how often new Bust varieties are discovered? I know it is semi-frequent for thinks like morgan dollars, but as far as Bust halves, I'm not sure.

 

Very Rare to find it what I understand. And when they are they're splashed on the news as well. The last I heard of was a new 1806 variety.

 

zaneman,

I am sending you a PM with the info!


Frank

Ben is probably correct in his statement! The new discoveries are few and far between and usually highly publisized in Coin World, some Coin magazine or both.


Frank

 

zane....congrats. it is out of my area so i can't comment in regard to variety...i can say i am extremely happy and excited for you in regard to the hobby and your affection for what you collect!!! i simply love your enthusiasm and your willingness to study and learn (many others of you in this forum i would say the same to you and can't name you all!!) thanks for sharing....steve

 

Rarely, and it makes Coin World headlines when it does.

 

Showing bits and pieces is OK but it would also help to have large pictures of both sides of the coin in question. From just looking at the little bits so far I'm coming up with O-108. The first thing I look at is the position of the I below the T in STATES. On your coin it is pretty much centered below the edge of the left foot of the T. That pretty well matches 106, 108, & 109. To a lesser extent, 101. The next thing is the branch stem over the C. On yours it is between the inner curve of the C and the center of the C. That eliminates 106, where it is past the center. On 109 it is just slightly past the inner curve and the 5 is too low. That leaves 108 and 101. On 101 the top of the 0 is noticably lower than the top of the 5. That isn't the case with your coin. That leaves 108. Without better pictures, I haven't been able to see anything that would eliminate 108.

 

Conder,
My coin matches every diagnostic of the 108 except the star shown in parsley's book, which is significantly misshapen, however on the coin in my possession it is not. I did some more research after you felt that 108 could not be ruled out, and I examined several varieties attributed by PCGS and NGC. Some had a ever so slightly misshapen star, but nothing like what is shown in Parsley's book.

The only conclusion I can draw is that I am now fairly confident I do not have an unlisted variety, but I am confused as to why the star in Parsleys book is significantly different. Any thoughts?

Thanks for your input!

 

zane:
Perhaps an early (as in very early) die state?

 

Most likely something damaged the star post mint.

 

Thanks for all the help Conder! I would have to agree with that assessment, as I cannot find any 0-108 with a similar star, and I also looked at some other publications that showed photos that match my coin exactly, so in conlusion, I am quite confident it is an o-108.