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<p>[QUOTE="geekpryde, post: 1965575, member: 36248"]<font size="5">Welcome back.</font></p><p><font size="5"><br /></font></p><p><font size="5">It you own ETF's that only hold baskets of 10 companies, I would say <u>you own the wrong ETF's</u>. You need way more diversification, and you don't need to own a lot of different ETFs to get there. IMHO, you ought to liquidate what you have, and instead put all your money into either a Total Market US, or Total Market World ETF, like: <a href="https://personal.vanguard.com/us/funds/snapshot?FundId=3141&FundIntExt=INT" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://personal.vanguard.com/us/funds/snapshot?FundId=3141&FundIntExt=INT" rel="nofollow">VT</a> (6,348 companies) and <a href="https://personal.vanguard.com/us/funds/snapshot?FundId=0970&FundIntExt=INT" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://personal.vanguard.com/us/funds/snapshot?FundId=0970&FundIntExt=INT" rel="nofollow">VTI</a> (3,740 companies) My kids own VT.</font></p><p><font size="5"><br /></font></p><p><font size="5">My wife and I own a similar extremely diversified<font size="5"> product, but with bonds, the mutual fund <a href="https://personal.vanguard.com/us/funds/snapshot?FundId=0306&FundIntExt=INT" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://personal.vanguard.com/us/funds/snapshot?FundId=0306&FundIntExt=INT" rel="nofollow">Vanguard Target Retirement 2045 Fund</a>. </font></font></p><p><font size="5"><font size="5"><br /></font></font></p><p><font size="5">Also, stock yield is only one part of a stocks return. I realize you made the caveat "and as long as the price did not chance", but that is a BIG caveat, and gives very flawed estimated returns. You have free access to the historical data between 1992 and now, so why are you giving fake numbers out for the stock market? We KNOW what the returns are in the past for a broadly diversified portfolio, using an index like the Wilshire 5000 (better) or the SP500 (easier).</font></p><p><font size="5"><br /></font></p><p><font size="4">SP500 is + 378%.</font></p><p><font size="4"><br /></font></p><p><font size="4"><b>So you're $1,000 example would be $4,780!! </b>A lot better than your coin examples.</font></p><p><font size="4"><br /></font></p><p><font size="5"><br /></font></p><p><font size="5">[ATTACH=full]347815[/ATTACH]</font></p><p><font size="5"><br /></font></p><p><font size="5"><br /></font></p><p><font size="5">I've said it before, I'll say it again, you really, really ought to spend time here:</font></p><p><font size="5"><br /></font></p><p><font size="5"><a href="http://www.bogleheads.org/forum/index.php" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="http://www.bogleheads.org/forum/index.php" rel="nofollow">http://www.bogleheads.org/forum/index.php</a></font></p><p><font size="5"><br /></font></p><p><font size="5"></font>[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="geekpryde, post: 1965575, member: 36248"][SIZE=5]Welcome back. It you own ETF's that only hold baskets of 10 companies, I would say [U]you own the wrong ETF's[/U]. You need way more diversification, and you don't need to own a lot of different ETFs to get there. IMHO, you ought to liquidate what you have, and instead put all your money into either a Total Market US, or Total Market World ETF, like: [URL='https://personal.vanguard.com/us/funds/snapshot?FundId=3141&FundIntExt=INT']VT[/URL] (6,348 companies) and [URL='https://personal.vanguard.com/us/funds/snapshot?FundId=0970&FundIntExt=INT']VTI[/URL] (3,740 companies) My kids own VT. My wife and I own a similar extremely diversified[SIZE=5] product, but with bonds, the mutual fund [URL='https://personal.vanguard.com/us/funds/snapshot?FundId=0306&FundIntExt=INT']Vanguard Target Retirement 2045 Fund[/URL]. [/SIZE] Also, stock yield is only one part of a stocks return. I realize you made the caveat "and as long as the price did not chance", but that is a BIG caveat, and gives very flawed estimated returns. You have free access to the historical data between 1992 and now, so why are you giving fake numbers out for the stock market? We KNOW what the returns are in the past for a broadly diversified portfolio, using an index like the Wilshire 5000 (better) or the SP500 (easier). [/SIZE] [SIZE=4]SP500 is + 378%. [B]So you're $1,000 example would be $4,780!! [/B]A lot better than your coin examples. [/SIZE] [SIZE=5] [ATTACH=full]347815[/ATTACH] I've said it before, I'll say it again, you really, really ought to spend time here: [url]http://www.bogleheads.org/forum/index.php[/url] [/SIZE][/QUOTE]
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