"Illegal" coin deal involving the world's most valuable coin?

Discussion in 'Coin Chat' started by CappedBustDimes, Jan 16, 2010.

  1. Mark Feld

    Mark Feld Rare coin dealer

    OK, graded and encapsulated, but not sonically sealed. ;)
     
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  3. quartertapper

    quartertapper Numismatist

    I was reading an article in a magazine a while ago, and the author was guessing what the grades of the coins might be. I was just under the assumption that no one knew them because they were not graded yet. I guess I shouldn't assume, and the guy who wrote it could have been a little clearer on the subject, or maybe he didn't know. Anyway, thank God for Cointalk!
     
  4. Mark Feld

    Mark Feld Rare coin dealer

    He probably just didn't know. Shortly after NGC posted images of the coins in their holders with the grading labels, the images were removed from NGC's site. That said, Coin World, among others, ran an article about it.
     
  5. jello

    jello Not Expert★NormL®

    I agree that is has nothing do will 33 Saints
    But under the heading of" Illegal coin deal "the 1913 fall in that category
    the 1913 were stolen from the Philly mint.a mint employee buy the name of Samuel Brown stuck 5 coin then walked them out of the mint.if you need to know more Ck out Coin World 1/25/2010 vol#51 or if you can find 2003 Coin World 7/28 /2003
     
  6. Mark Feld

    Mark Feld Rare coin dealer

    The 1913 nickels could not be "stolen", as they weren't even offiicially produced.
     
  7. jello

    jello Not Expert★NormL®

    Mark please read more about 1913 Liberty nickle it a good book buy Q David Bowers " The story of of 1913 Liberty nickles"
    As I said before a mint employee buy the name of Samuel Brown took 5 blank planchets and stuck them his self and walked them out of the Philly in 1913.then they think Samuel Brown 1919 he ran an add in The Numismatist seeking a 1913 Liberty Nickel to cover his track and the rest is history
     
  8. Mark Feld

    Mark Feld Rare coin dealer

    That is not new news - I have heard all about it over a long period of time. My point is that the coins were not officially struck by the US mint, so, contrary to what you posted, they were not really stolen US Mint coins.
     
  9. jello

    jello Not Expert★NormL®

    We I not going argue any more!
    but in my mind If and employee make his own coin that was not to be mint& walks the out front door,that is stolen items in my mind:kewl:
     
  10. Conder101

    Conder101 Numismatist

    Of course there is no proof that Brown struck them or walked out with them. All you can truly say is that he ended up with them in 1919. He was probably involved but in what capacity? He possibly had access to the dies, but not the presses. Even if he was the "mastermind" he would have needed accomplices and they could have struck the pieces and removed them from the mint. We just don't know exactly who did what.
     
  11. jello

    jello Not Expert★NormL®

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