IKE Errors on eBay

Discussion in 'Error Coins' started by 19Lyds, Jun 30, 2017.

  1. Seattlite86

    Seattlite86 Outspoken Member

    I'm really concerned about your state of mental health. You seem to have some real anger issues. Look at how you can exploded and only because I pointed out that you once again attacked someone for thinking differently than you do. It must be difficult feeling that you are truly the only correct person on this entire forum. I truly pity you and hope you can get help instead of continuing to lash out at those who don't deserve it. God bless you and I'll be praying for you.
     
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  3. 19Lyds

    19Lyds Member of the United States of Confusion

    Would you two please stop this incessant squabbling and name calling!

    Neither of you understands the other nor can either of you control what someone posts so why don't you just stop it?
     
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  4. USADealer

    USADealer New Member

    I never asked you or any of the other posters for your uneducated, one sided and sarcastic feedback.

    You along with the rest of the uneducated people posting herein have no clue as clarified within your uneducated posts.

    Nobody has answered the question of why a person should pay a grading fee to get a fraudulent mark of "questionable color" when the facts and background of the coin is not investigated.

    PCGS is a SCAM stealing money from customers who are swindled into submitting a coin to be graded with either a MS or PR grade but in return, they get no grade with an unlawful note from PCGS basically saying to the customer, "You or someone else altered the colors of the coin so therefore we cannot give the coin a numbered grade and good luck trying to sell it because you won't be able to with our questionable color rating."

    PCGS is a grading company and therefore "obligated" to research the history of a coin before marking it with a fraudulent caption!

    Cheers!
     
  5. ldhair

    ldhair Clean Supporter

    They are not obligated to research the history or the color. After looking at millions of coins, they know what they will straight grade and what they will detail.

    Instead of all the talk, post an image of the coin. Lets see it.
     
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  6. 19Lyds

    19Lyds Member of the United States of Confusion

    I'd think that there would be more metal if this were a "7" such as the "7" regith next to it.?
     
  7. Seattlite86

    Seattlite86 Outspoken Member

    I've never name called. I simply pointed out how abrasive and insulting he is. His extremely angry responses leads me to believe that he's going through some serious issues. I am concerned about him and will pray for him.
     
  8. Seattlite86

    Seattlite86 Outspoken Member

    I was disappointed in how one of the CT members responded to you earlier and spoke out. However, if you're going to go around and accuse members of being uneducated, you ought first try to figure out how "educated" they truly are. I may squabble with @BooksB4Coins but I'll be the last guy to listen to sit here and idly listen to someone call him and others here uneducated. Just because someone disagrees with you, does not make them less of an expert or educated person on the matter. No one has answered your question because your question makes no sense. You've done a less than proper job of clarifying your position and seem to only be going downhill. I respectfully suggest you stop as you've already managed to personally insult/attack quite a large group of people on here and that goes against our rules as this is a family forum. Have a better day.
     
  9. TypeCoin971793

    TypeCoin971793 Just a random guy on the internet

    No one asked you to join the forum and constantly bash PCGS or belittle the knowledge of the members here. I don't like the graders either, but I am not ranting about how much of a SCAM they are.

    By the way, since you are criticising the education of members here, where did you get your education? But you probably won't answer that question, just like the questions about your supposed dealership.

    They have answered it. The answer is just not what you want to hear. You are paying for an opinion, and the coin, in their opinion, has an unnatural color. The look of a coin can tell a lot about its history, like how it was stored, what chemicals it was exposed to, the method of cleaning, etc.

    In what way is it unlawful? Their website clearly states that "Questionable Color" is a potential designation for coins that they feel have an unnatural color.

    If you still think it is unlawful, shut up about willy-nilly calling PCGS a scam. Show and reference a specific legal document that outlines how PCGS is scamming its customers. If you cannot do this, than PCGS is operating within the law.

    That is exactly what is going on. You answered your own question. Stop crying.

    There is no way to be able to 100% verify the history of any coin. Any attempt would take way too much time and really jack up the grading costs. Also, a company like PCGS would not be able to trust any "history" of the coin submitted to them. It would be like blindly trusting a banker to verify that your car is in perfect working order. There would be serious trust issues.
     
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  10. baseball21

    baseball21 Well-Known Member

    To me it looks like a straight line across. I agree it is not big enough or long enough compared to the other 7, but at the same time I don't see the upside down v or point that I would expect from a 4.

    It's been answered by countless people, he just wants people to agree they are a scam and that his coin should have graded so he could sell it for a lot of money.
     
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  11. TypeCoin971793

    TypeCoin971793 Just a random guy on the internet

    "She" according to the profile
     
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  12. ldhair

    ldhair Clean Supporter

    I wonder if her avatar is the coin PCGS would not grade?
     
  13. USADealer

    USADealer New Member

    A family forum would not conduct themselves in such a disrespectful manner in which they have done arguing against my valid posts with continuous attacks on my 45 years plus knowledge. Even you refuse to answer the question of the fraudulent and slanderous grade of "questionable color." Doesn't the truth hurt? When brainless liberal collectors think it's OK to scam intelligent normal collectors out of a grading fee in return for a defaming caption within a slab it's time to call the coin collecting industry a big fraud!

    Cheers!
     
  14. DUNK 2

    DUNK 2 Well-Known Member

    Would a family forum refer to other posters as uneducated?

    And if you think everyone responding to your posts is uneducated (aka, they don't agree with your comments), why not just find another place to hang out?
     
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  15. baseball21

    baseball21 Well-Known Member

    You need to unlearn everything you learned the last 45 years if this is the result
     
  16. Cascade

    Cascade CAC Grader, Founding Member

    Why is this guy not banned yet @GDJMSP ?
     
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  17. TypeCoin971793

    TypeCoin971793 Just a random guy on the internet

    You have not answered any of the questions posed to you, yet you keep demanding answers to your question after it has been answered multiple times. Your arguments have not been valid because they are chock-full of erroneous information and logical fallacies. People are attacking your "45 plus years of knowledge" because you show no signs of having acquired it in the first place, and have not offered any proof other than simple boasting.

    I agree with your comments about QC insofar that we are paying PCGS to make the determination that a coin's toning is original or artificial. However, if the toning is artificial, then a "details" grade is warranted, end of story.

    There was no attempt by PCGS to slander you like you insist. Yet you don't think twice about slandering other people because they are simply not telling you what you want to hear. Your coin is damaged. End of story. If your feelings are hurt because of the coin's grade, then go home and suck your thumb until you feel better.

    If you feel the grade is in error, try submitting again. I have done it once and was successful.
     
  18. ldhair

    ldhair Clean Supporter

    I just want to see images of the coin that created all this anger.

    Could you do that for us @USADealer?
     
  19. BooksB4Coins

    BooksB4Coins Newbieus Sempiterna

    What part of "questionable" is so hard for you to understand? Contrary to your apparent assertion, they're not accusing the submitter of altering the coin, but most simply stating that in their opinion, the coin's color is QUESTIONABLE. This isn't that difficult of a concept, ma'am.

    That said, I get the distinct feeling that you're under the impression that PCGS has a responsibility to grade or designate any and all submitted coins to the expectations of the submitter. I am sorry, but if so, it is one of the most ridiculous and senseless positions imaginable, and certainly not one reasonably taken by anyone with 45 working years experience.
     
  20. 19Lyds

    19Lyds Member of the United States of Confusion

    The top of the four isn't a "V" in the traditional sense as the top of the 4 is somewhat flat.
    Four Top.jpg

    Four Top-02.jpg

    I'm just not seeing a "ghosted 7".

    Closer examination could be revealing!
     
  21. 19Lyds

    19Lyds Member of the United States of Confusion

    But, according to you, you're not a collector. You're a dealer with 45 years of experience.

    Post the questionable coin or languish in the grayness of "ignored-dom".
     
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