Featured IIIIII...wanna be....TETRARCHY!

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  1. nicholasz219

    nicholasz219 Well-Known Member

    I am sure that no one in their right mind is collecting Constantine/Licinius coins by mintmark like I am so I am not sure why I am even posting this. But you guys will read anything I have been told, so why not?

    The old daddy-o of the Tetrarchy, Diocletian finds himself trapped in billion...a billion Tetradrachm of Alexandria, Egypt that is. A tetrarch on a tetradrachm. Ha. @Mat has got me hooked on looking at these. Once in a while, you find a neat little coin for $5.

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    Diocletian, Tetradrachm, NO LEGEND, Dikaiosyne
    BI Tetradrachm
    Roman Provincial
    Alexandria, Egypt
    Augustus: 284 - 305AD
    Issued: 285 - 286AD
    19.0mm 6.30gr 0h
    O: A K Γ OYA ΔΙΟΚΛΗΤΙΑΝΟC CεΒ; Laureate, cuirassed bust, right.
    R: NO LEGEND; Dikaiosyne (Aequitas) standing left, holding scales and cornucopia.
    Exergue: L, left field; B, right field. (Year 2)
    Alexandria Mint
    Milne 4769
    sculptor17/Glenn Terry 292455048273
    2/25/18 3/14/18

    Then a group of Constantine coins. I know that these are not earth shattering, but if I try to show my wife and explain the mint mark system again, I am pretty sure I am going to be living on lower Wacker Drive.

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    Constantine I, Follis, DN CONSTANTINI MAX AVG
    Constantine I
    Caesar: 306 - 307AD
    Augustus: 307 - 337AD
    Issued: 324AD
    18.0mm 2.70gr 1h
    O: CONSTAN-TINVS AVG; Laureate head, right.
    R: DN CONSTANTINI MAX AVG; Wreath, VOT/(Dot)/XX, within.
    Exergue: Star, within wreath; SMHA, below wreath.
    RIC VII Heraclea 60; Sear (200) 16224.
    Aorta: 1347: B59, O4, R46, T300, M7.

    And a sister coin:

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    Constantine I, AE3, DN CONSTANTINI MAX AVG
    Constantine I
    Caesar: 306 - 307AD
    Augustus: 307 - 337AD
    Issued: 325 - 326AD
    19.0mm 3.34gr 6h
    O: CONSTANTINVS AVG; Laureate head, right.
    R: DN CONSTANTINI MAX AVG; Wreath, badge at top, VOT/(dot)/XXX, within.
    Exergue: SMHB
    Heraclea Mint
    RIC VII Heraclea 82, B.
    Aorta: 1426: B59, O4, R46, T301, M7.

    Sometimes, when you can buy a coin for $4, you do it. A couple of soldiers:

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    Constantine I, AE3, GLORIA EXERCITVS
    Constantine I
    Caesar: 306 - 307AD
    Augustus: 307 - 337AD
    Issued: 330 - 333AD
    18.0mm 1.45gr 0h
    O: CONSTANTI-NVS MAX AVG; Diademed (rosettes), draped and cuirassed bust, right.
    R: GLORI-A EXER-CITVS; Soldiers (2) standing on either side of 2 standards, spear in one hand, shield in other; dot on banner; 3-7 badges.
    Exergue: SMTSA
    Thessalonica Mint
    RIC VII Thessalonica 198
    Aorta: 783: B18, O9, R87, T220, M17.

    The next coin is very interesting even for a reduced follis. There are some details on these coins that make it fun to compare one coin to another. On this issue, there are stars in the fields of the helmet and three dots on the vertical band from crown to temple. On the reverse, there is a diamond pattern on the alter with a dot in the center as well as in each of the four corners. Little details like this keep me occupied for hours. And that is kind of what this is all about, I think.

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    Constantine I, Follis, VICTORIAE LAETAE PRINC PERP
    AE Follis
    Constantine I
    Caesar: 306 - 307AD
    Augustus: 307 - 337AD
    Issued: 319AD
    19.0 x 18.5mm 2.50gr 0h
    O: IMP CONSTAN-TINVS AVG; High crested-helmeted, cuirassed bust left, holding spear over shoulder. Two stars in helmet fields; three dots from helmet crown to temple.
    R: VICTORIAE LAETAE PRINC PERP; Two Victories standing facing each other, together holding shield reading VOT/PR on altar with diamond and five dots pattern.
    Exergue: TARL, below line.
    Arles Mint
    RIC VII Arles 195; Sear (200) 16299.
    Aorta: 855: B24, O53, R221, T235, M4.

    Finally, a very nice Licinius from our friend @John Anthony. Quite the nice coin, with a scarcer mintmark combination on the reverse of K, left, Wreath over X over B, right, ALE in the exergue. A happy little purchase when the Severans are scarce.

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    Licinius I, Follis, IOVI CONSERVATORI AVGG
    AE Follis
    Licinius I
    Augustus: 308 - 324AD
    Issued: 316 - 317AD
    21.0mm 2.60gr 0h
    O: IMP C VAL LICIN LICINIVS PF AVG; Laureate head, right.
    R: IOVI CONSE-RVATORI AVGG; Jupiter standing left, holding Victory on globe in right hand, scepter in left, eagle with wreath in beak at feet to left.
    Exergue: K, left field; (Wreath) over X over B, right field; ALE, below line.
    Alexandria Mint
    RIC VII Alexandria 18; Sear (2000) 15248.
    Aorta: 418: B8, O8, R30, T36, M1.

    Post any coins with details only a father (or a tetrarch) could love!
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  3. zumbly

    zumbly Ha'ina 'ia mai ana ka puana Supporter

    This Maxentius came to me via a group lot, but I've grown quite fond of it. I wonder how it survived quality control at the Ostia mint, and I'm curious if it raised the eyebrows of the merchants it was tendered to and if it was then accepted or rejected. Perhaps most of all I marvel at (and am glad for) the fact that whoever dug it up a thousand years or so later didn't just toss it into the trash bin. I'm very much in the camp of those who believe that every coin deserves an owner.

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    AE Follis. 2.76g, 29mm. Ostia mint, AD 309-312. RIC VI Ostia 54. O: IMP C MAXENTIVS P F AVG, laureate head right. R: VICTORIAE AE-TERNA AVG N, Victory advancing left with wreath & palm; MOSTT in exergue.
  4. Daniel_R6

    Daniel_R6 Well-Known Member

    Nice additions. Is there a particular mint you’re focusing on?
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  5. gsimonel

    gsimonel Well-Known Member

    Here's one of my favorite Constantine mint marks:
    Lugdunum (Lyons) mint, A.D. 320
    RIC 79 (var.)
    Rev: VICTORIAE LAET PRINC PERP - Two Victories holding shield inscribed VOT/PR above altar
    P[2 captives]L in exergue
    19 mm, 3.2 g.
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  6. Alegandron

    Alegandron "ΤΩΙ ΚΡΑΤΙΣΤΩΙ..." ΜΕΓΑΣ ΑΛΕΞΑΝΔΡΟΣ, June 323 BCE Supporter

    Great finds @nicholasz219 !

    Parthia Mithradates 1 177-138BCE AR Drachm - .jpg
    Parthia Mithradates 1 177-138BCE AR Drachm -

    RR Q Titius AR Quinarius 90 BCE G PEGASUS Sear 240.jpg
    RR Q Titius AR Quinarius 90 BCE G PEGASUS Sear 240

    RImp Octavian AR Quinarius 29-28 BCAsia Recepta Victory Cista Snakes S 1568.jpg
    RImp Octavian AR Quinarius 29-28 BCAsia Recepta Victory Cista Snakes S 1568

    RI Magnus Maximus 383-388 CE AE Follis.jpg
    RI Magnus Maximus 383-388 CE AE Follis
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  7. Mat

    Mat Ancient Coincoholic

    For $5, the tet was a good deal.
  8. ancient coin hunter

    ancient coin hunter Redditor Lucis Aeternae

    A Maximinus Daia of Cyzicus...it's got 3 dots on the reverse plus the legend GENIO IMPERATORIS...


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  9. nicholasz219

    nicholasz219 Well-Known Member

    @zumbly Lol, you can say that again. That coin looks like it lost a bar fight. But I agree, everything has value even if it isn't a pile of money. A fancy collector might throw that in the garbage, but to a kid or one of us it is a worthwhile piece deserving of love. Well, you know what I mean.

    @Daniel_R6 Nope, it's a free-for-all. I just check my Forvm page to see if I already have the mintmark/bust/legend combo and if I do not and it is reasonable enough, I buy it. Occasionally my ADD allows me to drill down and really look for a few coins if I am close to completing a series like all mintmarks of a certain combination for Arles, for example, I will hunker down and look for PARL, TARL, SARL, etc.

    @gsimonel That is a pretty sweet and scarce mintmark on a great looking coin. I do not have one yet. Can't wait to get one.

    @Alegandron I would happily take the Titius quinarius if I had the chance. I own no pegasii and sometimes you just have to pull the trigger when the price is right.

    @Mat Coming from you, that's a very nice compliment.

    @ancient coin hunter That's pretty sweet. I was the underbidder on a three dots yesterday. I did just get a GENIO IMPERATORS though, so it looks like I will have to struggle on while I look for a three dots.
  10. Kirkuleez

    Kirkuleez 80 proof

    Love the coins, but now I have the Sex Pistols playing on continuous loop in my head thanks to your title. ...DESTROY!!!!
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