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<p>[QUOTE="Jack D. Young, post: 4607845, member: 93371"]Besides competent grading, attribution is another skill seen lacking in several of the TPGs in my opinion.</p><p><br /></p><p>PCGS guarantees their attributions while I know both NGC and ANACS do not (they will reholder the coin if you send it back with the proper attribution at no cost but that doesn't cover a rare variety attribution error, and I own one- they just stated mechanical error on the on-line cert and removed the images).</p><p><br /></p><p>"Details" examples can be the hardest to properly authenticate and offer the biggest opportunity for the current counterfeiters who are getting better all of the time. I have suggested to a couple of my contacts in the top tier TPGs they stop doing details coins but that is a huge downside due to the volume and potential $'s lost, but you need to have the skills on staff and the time to do it properly as stated in the OP's post. And some of us have seen the severely corroded/ artificially weathered Gallery Mint example that slipped into a TPG holder...</p><p><br /></p><p>Dealing in early copper as a focus but some early silver I don't know how anyone properly "authenticates" a coin without attributing it 1st- always my 1st step when researching a suspect example. And that takes proper time and knowledge! And I have images of a deceptive fake 1798 large cent that was holdered as genuine by a TPG who actually identified the source coin variety (and listed on the label) but the coin was severely tooled and modified such that the "die state" was incorrect for the variety- something only an expert would have caught but they then slabbed several more in the same state and with major repeating marks.</p><p><br /></p><p>At least all 4 have guarantees of authenticity.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="Jack D. Young, post: 4607845, member: 93371"]Besides competent grading, attribution is another skill seen lacking in several of the TPGs in my opinion. PCGS guarantees their attributions while I know both NGC and ANACS do not (they will reholder the coin if you send it back with the proper attribution at no cost but that doesn't cover a rare variety attribution error, and I own one- they just stated mechanical error on the on-line cert and removed the images). "Details" examples can be the hardest to properly authenticate and offer the biggest opportunity for the current counterfeiters who are getting better all of the time. I have suggested to a couple of my contacts in the top tier TPGs they stop doing details coins but that is a huge downside due to the volume and potential $'s lost, but you need to have the skills on staff and the time to do it properly as stated in the OP's post. And some of us have seen the severely corroded/ artificially weathered Gallery Mint example that slipped into a TPG holder... Dealing in early copper as a focus but some early silver I don't know how anyone properly "authenticates" a coin without attributing it 1st- always my 1st step when researching a suspect example. And that takes proper time and knowledge! And I have images of a deceptive fake 1798 large cent that was holdered as genuine by a TPG who actually identified the source coin variety (and listed on the label) but the coin was severely tooled and modified such that the "die state" was incorrect for the variety- something only an expert would have caught but they then slabbed several more in the same state and with major repeating marks. At least all 4 have guarantees of authenticity.[/QUOTE]
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