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<p>[QUOTE=&quot;Insider, post: 4602748, member: 24314&quot;]messydesk, posted: &quot;MS is where most of the money occurs.&quot;</p><p><br /></p><p><i><span style="color: #660066">Value &amp; Grading don&#039;t mix at all.&nbsp; Money is the root of many problems including greed.&nbsp; Who wouldn&#039;t want to have their own &quot;bank.&quot;</span></i>&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; </p><p><br /></p><p>micbraun, posted:&quot;I’d <span style="color: #b30000">ban modern coins</span> entirely and would only focus on truly collectible coins&quot; <img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie1" alt=":)" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" /></p><p><br /></p><p><i><span style="color: #660066">First, that was already tried.&nbsp; It didn&#039;t work out.&nbsp; Second, I&#039;ll bet a lot of collectors hope you don&#039;t get your way.</span></i></p><p><br /></p><p>&quot;Some other ideas:</p><p>- there would be 3 instead of two types of grades: 1) straight grade 2) details/minor issue 3) details/major issues such as harsh cleaning, polishing or graffiti</p><p>- in order to qualify for an MS grade, a coin actually needs to be uncirculated Lol</p><p>- no plus grades, but an AU58 would need to be an outstanding coin with minimal wear only, star grades are used</p><p>- variety attribution is always included, it’s not optional</p><p>- high res pictures are always taken before the coin is graded; pictures are displayed on the certificate screen</p><p>- <b>all 3 graders stay in the room until they agree on a grade.&quot;</b></p><p><br /></p><p><i><span style="color: #660066">In the ideal world, there would be more discussion of grades. Keeping folks penned up until a verdict is reached would work more often than not.&nbsp; Now, the finalizer makes sure the &quot;line&quot; is held w/o much discussion.&nbsp; You would be surprised at how fast a knowledgeable grader can &quot;get with the company standards.&quot;</span></i></p><p><br /></p><p>Lehigh96, posted: &quot;I have often said on this forum that a coin can be graded multiple times, with different grades, and each time still be graded correctly.&quot;</p><p><br /></p><p><i><span style="color: #660066">I agree and disagree at the same time.&nbsp; I use a version of this example in class:</span></i></p><p><br /></p><p><i><span style="color: #660066">There is a group of stars called the Pleiades.&nbsp; Depending on the vision of the observer or the magnification used, the number of stars seen will change by a large amount.&nbsp; Yet, <b>each observer&#039;s # is correct for them.</b>&nbsp;&nbsp; If I examine a coin at 10X with both eyes and florescent light, my comments regarding the coin&#039;s condition of preservation just might be more correct than a very successful coin dealer&#039;s with fifty years of experience.&nbsp; HOWEVER, his opinion is the only one that counts in the marketplace.</span></i>&nbsp;&nbsp; <img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie8" alt=":D" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" /></p><p><br /></p><p>&quot;How many times have you looked at a coin and thought, that coin is high end MS64 or low end MS65?&nbsp; If you think of each numerical grade incrementally from MS6X.0 to MS6X.9 and then consider that a coin will never have a perfect number, but rather a range of grades about a half grade long, then a coin could easily be graded MS64 one day, MS65 the next, and still be correct both days.&nbsp; We assign a specific grade, but in actuality, the coin has a grading range.&nbsp; So when we run into a coin with an MS64.8-MS65.3 range, we then are forced to decide which grade to choose.&nbsp; Often that choice depends upon personal preferences of the grader.</p><p><br /></p><p>Perhaps if we shifted our mindset from each coin having an exact grade to each coin having a correct grading range, we will in a position to better understand and accept the inherent subjectivity in grading.&quot;</p><p><br /></p><p><i><span style="color: #660066">That&#039;s what the major grades once did.&nbsp; G, VG, F, etc.&nbsp;&nbsp; They indicated a &quot;range.&quot;</span></i></p><p><br /></p><p>BlackberryPie, posted: &quot;Why not add an in house CAC like service too? They can be the 4th, 5th, and 6th person.&quot; </p><p><br /></p><p><i><span style="color: #660066">We already grade by committee.</span></i>[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>

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