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<p>[QUOTE=&quot;GDJMSP, post: 1340201, member: 112&quot;]No, they didn&#039;t, not ever. And it doesn&#039;t matter how weak the strike was or how worn the dies were, the coins were not VF. They may have only had the design details that were the equivalent of a VF coin, but they were still unc.</p><p><br /></p><p>I do understand what you are saying, it&#039;s just that saying it the way you said it could mislead a lot of people.</p><p><br /></p><p>To the OP - you&#039;ve gotten your answer about the grade already. But to help you understand it a little bit better - even at the very instant that coins leave the coin press, many of them will of no higher grade than MS65. And some will even be lower than that. By the same token it is possible that a coin can leave the press as an MS70, it just doesn&#039;t happen very often. And it is after a coin leaves the coin press that its grade begins to fall. For every time that coin touches another coin it leaves mark, sometimes on both coins.</p><p><br /></p><p>And for the record, the holders and packaging that the mint uses, they are not airtight.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>

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