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<p>[QUOTE=&quot;Insider, post: 2440022, member: 24314&quot;]<span style="color: #b30000">Insider said</span>: <a href="https://www.cointalk.com/goto/post?id=2439979#post-2439979" class="internalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://www.cointalk.com/goto/post?id=2439979#post-2439979">↑</a></p><p>Perhaps some here should read the ANA Grading Guide. Coins graded in the lowest PR/MS grades (60 &amp; 61) may have continuous hairlining throughout! <img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie11" alt=":rolleyes:" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" /></p><p><br /></p><p><span style="color: #b30000">[USER=112]@GDJMSP[/USER] said</span>: This I agree with.</p><p><br /></p><p>&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; </p><p><span style="color: #b30000">Insider said</span>: You are all correct EXCEPT for the fact that NGC did not make a mistake. Hairlines and die polish on Proofs really stand out on a mirror surface. This coin has BOTH - hairlines from cleaning AND die polish.</p><p><br /></p><p><span style="color: #b30000">[USER=112]@GDJMSP[/USER] said</span>: <span style="color: #59b300">This I do not agree with.</span> Yes, a coin can easily, and often does, have lines from die polishing and die scratches ( two distinctly different things by the way), and hairlines from rough handling, and hairlines from harsh cleaning - two more distinctly different things.</p><p><br /></p><p>However, IF lines from harsh cleaning are present on the coin, then the coin is a no grade, no matter what. Or it is supposed to be anyway. And there was a time when it always was.</p><p><br /></p><p>The problem is this - the TPGs have learned that when a coin does have lines on it that the collecting public, the market, will gladly and willing accept a clean grade on the coin - regardless of the cause of those lines. So many, a great many, coins that have been harshly cleaned, to at least some degree, are given clean grades. And the market eats it up like candy just because the TPG says it&#039;s OK <img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie11" alt=":rolleyes:" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" /></p><p><br /></p><p><span style="color: #b30000">Insider said: </span><span style="color: #000000">I agree with Doug! <img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie57" alt=":jawdrop:" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" /> </span></p><p><span style="color: #b30000"><span style="color: #000000">Unfortunately, we don&#039;t influence the grading standards of NGC, or the commercial coin market.&nbsp; The only thing we control is what we purchase, say, or post.&nbsp; IMO, the coin sucks!&nbsp; It is not for me; but the grade <span style="color: #ff00ff">DOES CONFORM</span> with the standard grading practices of today.</span></span>[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>

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