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<p>[QUOTE="Sallent, post: 2549914, member: 76194"]Ok [USER=79368]@Barry Murphy[/USER] , you probably have been in the hobby longer than I've been alive, so if you saw some of these hoards, I believe you. However, coming from an academic background (I got three degrees hanging on my office wall) if something can't be proved, examined, or studied, then you shouldn't run with it. By your own admission, the hoards you saw were never studied, were dispersed, and coins were sold without any analysis or recording to private outfits</p><p><br /></p><p>If I had been NGC, I'd be very hesitant to give any hoard assignation to any coins later on submitted to NGC for grading, when some outfit claims they are from such and such unrecorded, undocumented, and unstudied hoard. If I couldn't document it and back it up with facts, I wouldn't do it. But that's just me.</p><p><br /></p><p>This also brings up another interesting point. We as collectors need to demand more ethical behavior from suppliers. Let the academics and historians study a hoard before any coins get released to the public. That way we won't give them any excuse to later go to the politicians to demand tough laws against ancients collectors because they are part of some nefarious market that destroys cultural patrimony or whatever. Don't give the government ls any more excuses to come down on us any more than they have.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="Sallent, post: 2549914, member: 76194"]Ok [USER=79368]@Barry Murphy[/USER] , you probably have been in the hobby longer than I've been alive, so if you saw some of these hoards, I believe you. However, coming from an academic background (I got three degrees hanging on my office wall) if something can't be proved, examined, or studied, then you shouldn't run with it. By your own admission, the hoards you saw were never studied, were dispersed, and coins were sold without any analysis or recording to private outfits If I had been NGC, I'd be very hesitant to give any hoard assignation to any coins later on submitted to NGC for grading, when some outfit claims they are from such and such unrecorded, undocumented, and unstudied hoard. If I couldn't document it and back it up with facts, I wouldn't do it. But that's just me. This also brings up another interesting point. We as collectors need to demand more ethical behavior from suppliers. Let the academics and historians study a hoard before any coins get released to the public. That way we won't give them any excuse to later go to the politicians to demand tough laws against ancients collectors because they are part of some nefarious market that destroys cultural patrimony or whatever. Don't give the government ls any more excuses to come down on us any more than they have.[/QUOTE]
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