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<p>[QUOTE="Barry Murphy, post: 2549862, member: 79368"]A hoard has to be a real hoard, just like a pedigree has to be a real pedigree. Value is irrelevant, number of coins is irrelevant. A hoard can be 5 coins or 50000 as long as they are discovered together. You can't put a fake pedigree on a slab for a fee and you can't call a hoard a hoard if it's not a hoard. A hoard does not have to be published although the smaller the hoard the higher the criteria for calling it a hoard. A small hoard would most likely need to have been published, perhaps in a newspaper article or journal to identify it as such. 10000 coins are much easier to identify as a hoard versus an accumulation due to similarities in composition, cleaning, surfaces etc. </p><p><br /></p><p>In order to have a hoard designation or pedigree put on a holder we have to be able to identify it as such. You can't ask to have Ex Newman collection on a holder just by paying a fee. Dealers talk when a hoard is being sold, so we know when a hoard is an actual hoard. You can't ask just to make it up for a fee. If we identify a coin as coming from a published hoard, we will include that information for free. </p><p><br /></p><p>Barry Murphy[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="Barry Murphy, post: 2549862, member: 79368"]A hoard has to be a real hoard, just like a pedigree has to be a real pedigree. Value is irrelevant, number of coins is irrelevant. A hoard can be 5 coins or 50000 as long as they are discovered together. You can't put a fake pedigree on a slab for a fee and you can't call a hoard a hoard if it's not a hoard. A hoard does not have to be published although the smaller the hoard the higher the criteria for calling it a hoard. A small hoard would most likely need to have been published, perhaps in a newspaper article or journal to identify it as such. 10000 coins are much easier to identify as a hoard versus an accumulation due to similarities in composition, cleaning, surfaces etc. In order to have a hoard designation or pedigree put on a holder we have to be able to identify it as such. You can't ask to have Ex Newman collection on a holder just by paying a fee. Dealers talk when a hoard is being sold, so we know when a hoard is an actual hoard. You can't ask just to make it up for a fee. If we identify a coin as coming from a published hoard, we will include that information for free. Barry Murphy[/QUOTE]
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