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<p>[QUOTE="Barry Murphy, post: 2549833, member: 79368"]Unfortunately sallent you are 100% wrong. Long before the seven hills hoard, colliseum hoard, and Byzantium hoard were slabbed, these hoards were on the market. They are real hoards, not made up groups of coins. I saw them intact. I did not see the golden age hoard although I was aware of its existence. I have seen pictures of the seven hills hoard prior to cleaning. This was all years before I went to work at NGC. Now the names of the hoards are perhaps made up, but the hoards themselves are not. Unfortunately none of these hoards were academically recorded before being sold on the market. The only record we now have is the NGC holders identifying the coins from specific hoards. From an academic standpoint this information at this point is pretty valueless as trying to put the hoard back together would be impossible. Also some of the coins from these hoards were sold prior to them being sold to the people who submitted them for slabbing. I purchased several hundred coins from the seven hills hoard before slabbing. </p><p><br /></p><p>To suggest that someone can submit any group of coins and call it a hoard is absolutely false.</p><p><br /></p><p>Barry Murphy.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="Barry Murphy, post: 2549833, member: 79368"]Unfortunately sallent you are 100% wrong. Long before the seven hills hoard, colliseum hoard, and Byzantium hoard were slabbed, these hoards were on the market. They are real hoards, not made up groups of coins. I saw them intact. I did not see the golden age hoard although I was aware of its existence. I have seen pictures of the seven hills hoard prior to cleaning. This was all years before I went to work at NGC. Now the names of the hoards are perhaps made up, but the hoards themselves are not. Unfortunately none of these hoards were academically recorded before being sold on the market. The only record we now have is the NGC holders identifying the coins from specific hoards. From an academic standpoint this information at this point is pretty valueless as trying to put the hoard back together would be impossible. Also some of the coins from these hoards were sold prior to them being sold to the people who submitted them for slabbing. I purchased several hundred coins from the seven hills hoard before slabbing. To suggest that someone can submit any group of coins and call it a hoard is absolutely false. Barry Murphy.[/QUOTE]
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