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<p>[QUOTE="Insider, post: 2548786, member: 24314"]I'll answer this [USER=44132]@Bing[/USER] </p><p><br /></p><p>For some "<span style="color: #006600">member</span>" and (I don't care if the <span style="color: #336600">member</span> works in the British museum) to post disparaging <b><span style="color: #b35900">crap</span></b> like his and say in effect "ALL TPGS's overgrade coins" sets me off. I have news for all of you reading this. We each have our own grading standards; NEVERTHELESS the "overgraders" at the TPGS's and their dealer customers HAVE SET THE GRADING STANDARDS for all of us. That's why coins are not graded the way we learned. So now IMO, many of us have become conservative graders and unless he learns (as I have) the "new system" he'll get his eyes picked out!</p><p><br /></p><p>As for authentication errors, there is not a museum, collector, dealer, auction house, etc that has not made them in the past and will not continue to make them. Nevertheless, we are lucky to have TPGS's, museums, AND KNOWLEDGEABLE NUMISMATIST COLLECTORS to help weed out the fakes.</p><p><br /></p><p>Now, I'm curious. Excluding U.S., foreign, and tokens from this; how many actually deceptive counterfeit ancients has our big-mouth been the first to identify to the world? That's all I'll say. <img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie66" alt=":muted:" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" /> Another thing for sure - we have not seen anything yet as far as deceptive counterfeits. </p><p><br /></p><p>PS There is only one moderator here who knows who I am. <span style="color: #ff0000">He agrees 100% with your comment.</span> <img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie87" alt=":sorry:" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" /><img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie80" alt=":shame:" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" /> I'm trying to change <img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie3" alt=":(" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" /> but some <span style="color: #006600">misinformed</span> comments set me off!</p><p><br /></p><p><span style="color: #006600">Edited words in "snarky" post.<img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie14" alt=":angelic:" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" /></span>[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="Insider, post: 2548786, member: 24314"]I'll answer this [USER=44132]@Bing[/USER] For some "[COLOR=#006600]member[/COLOR]" and (I don't care if the [COLOR=#336600]member[/COLOR] works in the British museum) to post disparaging [B][COLOR=#b35900]crap[/COLOR][/B] like his and say in effect "ALL TPGS's overgrade coins" sets me off. I have news for all of you reading this. We each have our own grading standards; NEVERTHELESS the "overgraders" at the TPGS's and their dealer customers HAVE SET THE GRADING STANDARDS for all of us. That's why coins are not graded the way we learned. So now IMO, many of us have become conservative graders and unless he learns (as I have) the "new system" he'll get his eyes picked out! As for authentication errors, there is not a museum, collector, dealer, auction house, etc that has not made them in the past and will not continue to make them. Nevertheless, we are lucky to have TPGS's, museums, AND KNOWLEDGEABLE NUMISMATIST COLLECTORS to help weed out the fakes. Now, I'm curious. Excluding U.S., foreign, and tokens from this; how many actually deceptive counterfeit ancients has our big-mouth been the first to identify to the world? That's all I'll say. :muted: Another thing for sure - we have not seen anything yet as far as deceptive counterfeits. PS There is only one moderator here who knows who I am. [COLOR=#ff0000]He agrees 100% with your comment.[/COLOR] :sorry::shame: I'm trying to change :( but some [COLOR=#006600]misinformed[/COLOR] comments set me off! [COLOR=#006600]Edited words in "snarky" post.:angelic:[/COLOR][/QUOTE]
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