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<p>[QUOTE=&quot;Montmercure, post: 24803262, member: 121901&quot;]<span style="color: #000000">I come back to you to submit a new epigraphic enigma concerning what I think is a <a href="https://www.forumancientcoins.com/numiswiki/view.asp?key=monogram" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://www.forumancientcoins.com/numiswiki/view.asp?key=monogram" rel="nofollow">monogram</a> appearing on a small Greek silver coin (Tetartemorion or <a href="https://www.forumancientcoins.com/numiswiki/view.asp?key=hemiobol" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://www.forumancientcoins.com/numiswiki/view.asp?key=hemiobol" rel="nofollow">Hemiobol</a>)</span></p><p><span style="color: #000000">I <a href="https://www.forumancientcoins.com/catalog/roman-and-greek-coins.asp?vpar=1840" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://www.forumancientcoins.com/catalog/roman-and-greek-coins.asp?vpar=1840" rel="nofollow">hope</a> you will be willing to <a href="http://www.forumancientcoins.com/board/index.php?board=17.0" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="http://www.forumancientcoins.com/board/index.php?board=17.0" rel="nofollow">help</a> me</span></p><p><span style="color: #000000"><br /></span></p><p><span style="color: #000000">The coin in question is of the following <a href="https://www.forumancientcoins.com/numiswiki/view.asp?key=type" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://www.forumancientcoins.com/numiswiki/view.asp?key=type" rel="nofollow">type</a> (see below)</span></p><p><span style="color: #000000"><br /></span></p><p><span style="color: #000000">[ATTACH]1587224[/ATTACH] </span></p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>The <a href="https://www.forumancientcoins.com/numiswiki/view.asp?key=obverse" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://www.forumancientcoins.com/numiswiki/view.asp?key=obverse" rel="nofollow">obverse</a> represents: &quot;a Turreted female <a href="https://www.forumancientcoins.com/numiswiki/view.asp?key=head" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://www.forumancientcoins.com/numiswiki/view.asp?key=head" rel="nofollow">head</a> - right&quot;, some numismatists recognize Aphrodite.</p><p><br /></p><p>The <a href="https://www.forumancientcoins.com/numiswiki/view.asp?key=monogram" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://www.forumancientcoins.com/numiswiki/view.asp?key=monogram" rel="nofollow">Monogram</a> on the <a href="https://www.forumancientcoins.com/numiswiki/view.asp?key=reverse" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://www.forumancientcoins.com/numiswiki/view.asp?key=reverse" rel="nofollow">reverse</a> is supposed to represent the city / Polis / province where it must have circulated around the 3rd century BC</p><p>In my opinion, this <a href="https://www.forumancientcoins.com/numiswiki/view.asp?key=monogram" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://www.forumancientcoins.com/numiswiki/view.asp?key=monogram" rel="nofollow">monogram</a> can be devided into several ways:</p><p>Π + X</p><p>Π + X + Ν</p><p><br /></p><p>Or, less likely:</p><p>Γ + I +</p><p>Γ + I + X + Ν</p><p><br /></p><p>Or in other less obvious combinations that don&#039;t come to mind</p><p><br /></p><p>Numismatic proposes “uncertain” origins such as:</p><p>- <a href="https://www.forumancientcoins.com/catalog/roman-and-greek-coins.asp?vpar=1184" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://www.forumancientcoins.com/catalog/roman-and-greek-coins.asp?vpar=1184" rel="nofollow">Cyprus</a> / Salamis / reign of Pnytagoras (Πνυταγόρας)</p><p>- Kephallenia / Paleis (Pale)</p><p>- ARGOS (Imhoof-Blumer - &quot;Griechische Münzen&quot;, Munich 1890, page 9 n° 16)</p><p><br /></p><p>The way they arrive to those proposals is not indicate exept Imhoof-Blumer, but his justification seems a bit &quot;tirée par les cheveux&quot; (far-fetched) or at least original to me - perhaps this is an effect of the Google translation (German &gt; French)?</p><p><br /></p><p>So We faced two camps :</p><p><br /></p><p>Camp 1 :</p><p>CNG – Savoca – Roma Numismatic – CGB and a few others which propose an origin of - CYPRUS / Salamis or Kephallenia / Paleis (Pale)</p><p><br /></p><p>Camp 2 :</p><p>Imhoof-Blumer, cited by Leu, Naumann and Künker who propose an origin to ARGOS</p><p><br /></p><p>Numismatic dealers do not take risks and are careful not to certify the location</p><p><a href="https://www.forumancientcoins.com/numiswiki/view.asp?key=cng" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://www.forumancientcoins.com/numiswiki/view.asp?key=cng" rel="nofollow">CNG</a> even specifies: “The coins of Salamis do feature turreted <a href="https://www.forumancientcoins.com/numiswiki/view.asp?key=portraits" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://www.forumancientcoins.com/numiswiki/view.asp?key=portraits" rel="nofollow">portraits</a> of Aphrodite, but other than that and the possibility of rendering the <a href="https://www.forumancientcoins.com/numiswiki/view.asp?key=monogram" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://www.forumancientcoins.com/numiswiki/view.asp?key=monogram" rel="nofollow">monogram</a> as PN, there is little to confirm the <a href="http://www.forumancientcoins.com/board/index.php?board=7.0" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="http://www.forumancientcoins.com/board/index.php?board=7.0" rel="nofollow">identification</a> of this coin »</p><p><br /></p><p>Apart from this sort of coin, have you ever encountered such <a href="https://www.forumancientcoins.com/numiswiki/view.asp?key=monograms" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://www.forumancientcoins.com/numiswiki/view.asp?key=monograms" rel="nofollow">monograms</a>?</p><p><br /></p><p>Can you give me a clue because I admit to being &quot;dry&quot; on this point?</p><p><br /></p><p>François[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>

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