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<p>[QUOTE="Marsyas Mike, post: 4491464, member: 85693"]I'll chime in somewhat redundantly because two of them are countermarked - and nicely countermarked at that.</p><p><br /></p><p>The upper right one, as Doug pointed out is from Side, Pamphylia, and has a countermark. This countermark is rather interesting, and somewhat mysterious, to me anyway. Some describe it as showing a sheep's knucklebone! These were used in gaming:</p><p><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Knucklebones" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Knucklebones" rel="nofollow">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Knucklebones</a></p><p><br /></p><p>Or it might be a pomegranate. I never did find a definitive, authoritative source for these. Here's mine:</p><p>[ATTACH=full]1114442[/ATTACH]</p><p><b>Side, Pamphylia Æ 12</b></p><p><b>(205-191 B.C.)</b></p><p>Helmeted head of Athena right / ΣIΔHTΩ[N], Nike walking left, holding wreath and palm branch, pomegranate in left field.</p><p>BMC 66; SNG France 740; SNG von Aulock 4806; SNG Cop 408; Sear 5440.</p><p><b>Countermark: </b> See reverse.</p><p>(3.37 grams / 12 mm)</p><p><br /></p><p><b>Countermark: </b></p><p>Astragalos (sheep knuckle bone)? 6 x 4 mm obverse. I found this countermark on this host in several places (auctions, eBay), although I could not find any solid attribution information. Some describe it as an owl or a pomegranate. </p><p><br /></p><p>You asked about value for these. When researching mine, I found quite a few examples online for sale, so I think it is fairly common. Yours is a nice specimen, better than mine, I think. In a fancy auction such as the one Doug linked, maybe $50-$100. I got mine on eBay for about $7.50, but I'm a bargain hunter.</p><p><br /></p><p>***</p><p><br /></p><p>As for the coin on the upper left, this is another one from Odessos, showing the Great God reclining. It too has a countermark - a Greek letter Delta in a circle. Value would be about the same as the Side, I'm guessing, as these are somewhat "common" for this sort of thing. Here are a couple of auction links:</p><p><br /></p><p><a href="https://www.acsearch.info/search.html?id=3172511" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://www.acsearch.info/search.html?id=3172511" rel="nofollow">https://www.acsearch.info/search.html?id=3172511</a></p><p><br /></p><p><a href="https://www.acsearch.info/search.html?id=5097463" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://www.acsearch.info/search.html?id=5097463" rel="nofollow">https://www.acsearch.info/search.html?id=5097463</a></p><p><br /></p><p>Nice coins. I should add, if all this information is new to you, and seems a bit overwhelming, I knew nothing about Greek bronzes or ancient countermarks three years ago - a lot of help here on Coin Talk was the ticket to most of my knowledge. Blundering into stuff online did most of the rest. It is a fun hobby - and you have three great coins to start with.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="Marsyas Mike, post: 4491464, member: 85693"]I'll chime in somewhat redundantly because two of them are countermarked - and nicely countermarked at that. The upper right one, as Doug pointed out is from Side, Pamphylia, and has a countermark. This countermark is rather interesting, and somewhat mysterious, to me anyway. Some describe it as showing a sheep's knucklebone! These were used in gaming: [URL]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Knucklebones[/URL] Or it might be a pomegranate. I never did find a definitive, authoritative source for these. Here's mine: [ATTACH=full]1114442[/ATTACH] [B]Side, Pamphylia Æ 12 (205-191 B.C.)[/B] Helmeted head of Athena right / ΣIΔHTΩ[N], Nike walking left, holding wreath and palm branch, pomegranate in left field. BMC 66; SNG France 740; SNG von Aulock 4806; SNG Cop 408; Sear 5440. [B]Countermark: [/B] See reverse. (3.37 grams / 12 mm) [B]Countermark: [/B] Astragalos (sheep knuckle bone)? 6 x 4 mm obverse. I found this countermark on this host in several places (auctions, eBay), although I could not find any solid attribution information. Some describe it as an owl or a pomegranate. You asked about value for these. When researching mine, I found quite a few examples online for sale, so I think it is fairly common. Yours is a nice specimen, better than mine, I think. In a fancy auction such as the one Doug linked, maybe $50-$100. I got mine on eBay for about $7.50, but I'm a bargain hunter. *** As for the coin on the upper left, this is another one from Odessos, showing the Great God reclining. It too has a countermark - a Greek letter Delta in a circle. Value would be about the same as the Side, I'm guessing, as these are somewhat "common" for this sort of thing. Here are a couple of auction links: [URL]https://www.acsearch.info/search.html?id=3172511[/URL] [URL]https://www.acsearch.info/search.html?id=5097463[/URL] Nice coins. I should add, if all this information is new to you, and seems a bit overwhelming, I knew nothing about Greek bronzes or ancient countermarks three years ago - a lot of help here on Coin Talk was the ticket to most of my knowledge. Blundering into stuff online did most of the rest. It is a fun hobby - and you have three great coins to start with.[/QUOTE]
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