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<p>[QUOTE="philologus_1, post: 7929099, member: 92212"]Forgive me in advance if what I write here is already known to you, but I get asked to attribute these types of Hasmonean coins often enough to know that many people struggle with these attributions -- as do I. So perhaps this will be helpful to others to better understand why attributing these types is so difficult.</p><p><br /></p><p>At the heart of the issue is that 4 different Hasmonean rulers each issued multiple types which each have a double-cornucopia on the reverse and an inscription within a wreath on the obverse. Hyrcanus I alone issued 8 different types like this; plus Aristobulus issued 2, Alexander Jannaeus issued 3, and Hyrcanus II issued 3. That makes <u>16 different possible types (not counting varieties) which each look quasi-identical even to most ancient biblical coin collectors</u>. :-o</p><p><br /></p><p>From my experience the majority of ancient biblical coin collectors (myself included) cannot read Paleo-Hebrew well enough to easily attribute these types. Unless one has memorized all the Paleo-Hebrew letters to the point of being able to have a degree of comfort in reading the names and phrases commonly used in these inscriptions, the only way to distinguish them is by utilizing the detailed online helps which include diagrams (such as the two links provided below), and then through painstaking attention to detail, compare the coin you wish to attribute to the various diagrams sometimes letter-by-letter. It is difficult, but I have done this with success in the past. However, in full honesty, it takes so long to do so that I don't even do it for my own coins any more -- instead, I only buy Hasmoneans with attributions already assigned from expert sellers who do read Paleo-Hebrew.</p><p><br /></p><p>So, with all that said, the best I can do is provide two links to info that would allow those with enough interest, time, eyesight, and patience to do so. <img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie1" alt=":)" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" /></p><p><br /></p><p><a href="https://www.forumancientcoins.com/numiswiki/view.asp?key=reading%20judean%20coins" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://www.forumancientcoins.com/numiswiki/view.asp?key=reading%20judean%20coins" rel="nofollow">https://www.forumancientcoins.com/numiswiki/view.asp?key=reading judean coins</a></p><p><br /></p><p><a href="https://www.vcoins.com/en/stores/athena_numismatics-18/ancient-coins/learn_ancient_hebrew_in_coins-24541.aspx?#!/category/learn_ancient_hebrew_in_coins/?idCategory=24541&searchDisplayAsList=False&searchMaxRecords=100&store_order_by=dateadded_desc&countitems=17&changeDisplayList=&page=1" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://www.vcoins.com/en/stores/athena_numismatics-18/ancient-coins/learn_ancient_hebrew_in_coins-24541.aspx?#!/category/learn_ancient_hebrew_in_coins/?idCategory=24541&searchDisplayAsList=False&searchMaxRecords=100&store_order_by=dateadded_desc&countitems=17&changeDisplayList=&page=1" rel="nofollow">https://www.vcoins.com/en/stores/athena_numismatics-18/ancient-coins/learn_ancient_hebrew_in_coins-24541.aspx?#!/category/learn_ancient_hebrew_in_coins/?idCategory=24541&searchDisplayAsList=False&searchMaxRecords=100&store_order_by=dateadded_desc&countitems=17&changeDisplayList=&page=1</a></p><p><br /></p><p>re: the coin with the possible fake patina... Just a thought from past experiences (good and bad)... If it does have a fake patina, and if said potential fake patina were to be removed, the contrast necessary to read the inscription may be lost in the process.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="philologus_1, post: 7929099, member: 92212"]Forgive me in advance if what I write here is already known to you, but I get asked to attribute these types of Hasmonean coins often enough to know that many people struggle with these attributions -- as do I. So perhaps this will be helpful to others to better understand why attributing these types is so difficult. At the heart of the issue is that 4 different Hasmonean rulers each issued multiple types which each have a double-cornucopia on the reverse and an inscription within a wreath on the obverse. Hyrcanus I alone issued 8 different types like this; plus Aristobulus issued 2, Alexander Jannaeus issued 3, and Hyrcanus II issued 3. That makes [U]16 different possible types (not counting varieties) which each look quasi-identical even to most ancient biblical coin collectors[/U]. :-o From my experience the majority of ancient biblical coin collectors (myself included) cannot read Paleo-Hebrew well enough to easily attribute these types. Unless one has memorized all the Paleo-Hebrew letters to the point of being able to have a degree of comfort in reading the names and phrases commonly used in these inscriptions, the only way to distinguish them is by utilizing the detailed online helps which include diagrams (such as the two links provided below), and then through painstaking attention to detail, compare the coin you wish to attribute to the various diagrams sometimes letter-by-letter. It is difficult, but I have done this with success in the past. However, in full honesty, it takes so long to do so that I don't even do it for my own coins any more -- instead, I only buy Hasmoneans with attributions already assigned from expert sellers who do read Paleo-Hebrew. So, with all that said, the best I can do is provide two links to info that would allow those with enough interest, time, eyesight, and patience to do so. :) [URL='https://www.forumancientcoins.com/numiswiki/view.asp?key=reading%20judean%20coins']https://www.forumancientcoins.com/numiswiki/view.asp?key=reading judean coins[/URL] [URL]https://www.vcoins.com/en/stores/athena_numismatics-18/ancient-coins/learn_ancient_hebrew_in_coins-24541.aspx?#!/category/learn_ancient_hebrew_in_coins/?idCategory=24541&searchDisplayAsList=False&searchMaxRecords=100&store_order_by=dateadded_desc&countitems=17&changeDisplayList=&page=1[/URL] re: the coin with the possible fake patina... Just a thought from past experiences (good and bad)... If it does have a fake patina, and if said potential fake patina were to be removed, the contrast necessary to read the inscription may be lost in the process.[/QUOTE]
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