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<p>[QUOTE=&quot;+VGO.DVCKS, post: 8140239, member: 110504&quot;]That&#039;s a very cool example, [USER=34999]@01mikep[/USER].&nbsp; The imitation of English reverses is unusual.&nbsp; Apart from the really early English ones, which copy Edwardian pennies,&nbsp; the ones I know of in this range (into the 14th century) imitate contemporary French gold issues --with a tip o&#039; the hat to [USER=77704]@panzerman[/USER].</p><p>Yep, [USER=109372]@jtlartgallery[/USER], it was looking to be on the early, later 14th-century side.&nbsp; Glad you nailed it.&nbsp; </p><p>Early jetons are the kind of thing that make me sit up whenever I see one for sale.&nbsp; They&#039;re a little late for me, but they&#039;re just fun --especially for the motifs they imitate.&nbsp; Here&#039;s a recent favorite, with a similar obverse motif, echoing 14th-century French and Anglo-Gallic gold ecus.</p><p>[ATTACH=full]1418998[/ATTACH] </p><p>[ATTACH=full]1419001[/ATTACH] </p><p>Obv. legend: +AVE M [...]ARIA.</p><p>...For attribution, I only go by style and whatever turns up on the internet, including anything the seller (often enough a detectorist in the UK) has to say.&nbsp; [USER=109372]@jtlartgallery[/USER] (or anyone else), would you happen to know of any available copies of Mitchiner ...anywhere?</p><p>Another question: jetons (UK: jettons) were ostensibly issued and used primarily for bookkeeping; a sort of collective, exonumic version of an abacus.&nbsp; But from the detector finds I&#039;ve seen, examples that do look more emphatically French, along with the later Nuremburg ones, turn up in the UK all the time.&nbsp; Is it possible that, in the complete absence of an official AE coinage, they might have functioned as small change?&nbsp; One contemporary phenomenon in England are the small, fractional Venetian grossos which one UK dealer told me often circulated as farthings.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>

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