ID Help - Jugate Facing w/Athena reverse (provincial)

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  1. hotwheelsearl

    hotwheelsearl Well-Known Member

    I would like to ask for some assistance in nailing down the ID of this coin.

    It is rather large, dupondius-sized at 27mm and measuring 12.9g.

    The obverse features two heads facing each other. Most of the legend is obliterated save for the ending, which appears to read ΔΟΗ...

    Reverse has what I believe is Athena standing, with shield to her right, at her feet. Again, legend is tough but I think I see ....Π...ΛΙ...O

    There aren't terribly many options here.
    GUESS: Macrinus & Diadumenian
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  3. Roman Collector

    Roman Collector Well-Known Member

    Probably Mac & Di; Nemesis reverse, likely Marcianopolis. Something like this.

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  4. hotwheelsearl

    hotwheelsearl Well-Known Member

    Thanks! I figured it was those dudes, but I totally missed the mark on that reverse. Gracias.
     
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  5. Sulla80

    Sulla80 Well-Known Member

    That's a tough one - I lean toward Diadumenian and Macrinus - and agree with @Roman Collector that it is probably Markianopolis. I think an Athena reverse.cancel that - I think I see a spoke.
     
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  6. Roman Collector

    Roman Collector Well-Known Member

    Just a point about terminology, @hotwheelsearl -- Jugate comes from the Latin term for cheek and jugate busts are cheek to cheek, like this:

    Cleopatra Thea Antiochus VIII.jpg

    Confronted busts are face-to-face, like this:

    Philip I and Otacilia Marcianopolis Serapis.jpg
     
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  7. hotwheelsearl

    hotwheelsearl Well-Known Member

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  8. hotwheelsearl

    hotwheelsearl Well-Known Member

    You are correct, closer inspection on my part shows a spoke as well.

    Thanks for all the help!
     
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  9. dougsmit

    dougsmit Member

    I see Caracalla and Domna. Mine is Marcianopolis.
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  10. hotwheelsearl

    hotwheelsearl Well-Known Member

    Doug, I'm having a tough time, but it might just be C and D. I think the right-hand head's a bit smoother than the textured Diadu head. I'll have to break out the electron microscope on this one
     
  11. PeteB

    PeteB Well-Known Member

    I think Doug is correct! I "think" I see ....ΔΟΜ... (for Domna) on the obverse legend at about 4 or 5 o'clock. And I "think" I see part of the magistrate's name VΠ (KVNTI)ΛIANO(V) (Quintillianus) on the reverse, who struck coins only for Caracalla alone, and Caracalla and Julia Domna. He is named also on Doug's coin. Also, I "think" I see an Є in the left reverse field...as on Doug's.


     
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  12. hotwheelsearl

    hotwheelsearl Well-Known Member

    Your eyes are incredible! Thanks so much for your sleuthing. :)
     
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