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<p>[QUOTE="rascal, post: 1383746, member: 29239"]What the heck ? Does everyone think Mike Diamond is some kind of a coin God and can do no wrong and believes every word he says? I knew BJ would side with Mike before I let him see the coin because BJ will agree with about anything Mike says. This is the way it has always been. I see here that Mike is coming out and saying flat out BJ called my coin a SQUEEZE JOB and nothing else, this is just not true and I have the letter to prove it. BJ said he did feel the coin is what they call a SQUEEZE JOB or SOMETHING of a SIMILAR NATURE. also the M and E of AMERICA does not touch the date. the M in this area near the date is not visible and the E is to the right side of the 8 in the date and I can not see any evidence of any letter damaging the rim on the coin..</p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>what the heck is wrong with you Mike? here is your last post on the Coneca forum stating this would be your only comment on my coin and now here you are starting a new thread about it. I just don't don't see the need for this.</p><p><br /></p><p>[ Mikes coneca post][TABLE="class: tborder, align: center"]</p><p>[TR]</p><p>[TD="class: alt2"][TABLE]</p><p>[TR]</p><p>[TD]<a href="http://www.cointalk.com/member.php?u=1" class="internalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="http://www.cointalk.com/member.php?u=1"><font size="5"><span style="color: #22229c">diamond</span></font></a> <img src="http://www.cointalk.com/images/statusicon/user_offline.gif" class="bbCodeImage wysiwygImage" alt="" unselectable="on" /> </p><p>[/TD]</p><p>[TD="width: 100%"] [/TD]</p><p>[TD]Join Date: Jul 2007</p><p>Posts: 1,653 </p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>[/TD]</p><p>[/TR]</p><p>[/TABLE]</p><p>[/TD]</p><p>[/TR]</p><p>[TR]</p><p>[TD="class: alt1"]<img src="http://www.cointalk.com/images/icons/icon1.gif" class="bbCodeImage wysiwygImage" alt="" unselectable="on" /> </p><p>[HR][/HR]It's an obvious squeeze job. The incuse design elements cross Lincoln's face, which is not possible considering how high the relief is in this area. You'll also note that some of the incuse elements invade the design rim, which is also not possible in a clash. All other sources of incuse, mirror-image design elements (e.g., brockage, flipped over dropped filling) are also inadmissable. ICG got it hysterically wrong. This will be my only comment on this vandalized coin. </p><p><br /></p><p>-- Mike Diamond ]] </p><p><br /></p><p>I don't know whether to believe someone or not on anything when they do things like this. Mike you and me and everyone else can make a mistake from time to time. Just like that time I sent you that 2005 Minnesota DDR #1 state quarter and you referred to it as a die chip and sent it back to me. thanks to Potter , Wexler , and a few others plus me finally found out what it was and where the extra tree came from on the die. I could have spent those coins and I had over a hundred of them but I hung in there with them and now I'm thankful I kept them. this showed me that if you have a strong feeling about something to hang in there and stick to your belief.. </p><p><br /></p><p>here is another paragraph BJ wrote about this coin. </p><p><br /></p><p>Bj wrote; Normally a clashing of the dies is caught by the press operator.When it does occur ,the coin press is shut down and the dies and inspected for damage.if the obverse die is damaged to bad , it will be abraided to remove the clash marks and then put back into service .more often though ,, the obverse die is retired after a die clash,expessialy one of this magnitude.I find it odd that reverse die did not show even a hint of this die clash.Was it changed out ? it may have been ... but why did they not change the obverse die as well ? this is a inconsistency , but it may have happened . </p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>This is my coin and I do not see why anyone else should worry about it . If anyone loses any money on this coin it will be me and money is no object to me. I can do whatever I want to with it and it will not hurt anyone. Like I told all of you many times this may be something other than a clashed die and you folks got hung up on a clashed die. if this coin was a squeeze or hammer job coin it would be out off round and larger in diameter and the reverse side should show at least a tiny bit of damage.</p><p><br /></p><p>[/TD]</p><p>[/TR]</p><p>[/TABLE][/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="rascal, post: 1383746, member: 29239"]What the heck ? Does everyone think Mike Diamond is some kind of a coin God and can do no wrong and believes every word he says? I knew BJ would side with Mike before I let him see the coin because BJ will agree with about anything Mike says. This is the way it has always been. I see here that Mike is coming out and saying flat out BJ called my coin a SQUEEZE JOB and nothing else, this is just not true and I have the letter to prove it. BJ said he did feel the coin is what they call a SQUEEZE JOB or SOMETHING of a SIMILAR NATURE. also the M and E of AMERICA does not touch the date. the M in this area near the date is not visible and the E is to the right side of the 8 in the date and I can not see any evidence of any letter damaging the rim on the coin.. what the heck is wrong with you Mike? here is your last post on the Coneca forum stating this would be your only comment on my coin and now here you are starting a new thread about it. I just don't don't see the need for this. [ Mikes coneca post][TABLE="class: tborder, align: center"] [TR] [TD="class: alt2"][TABLE] [TR] [TD][URL="http://www.cointalk.com/member.php?u=1"][SIZE=5][COLOR=#22229c]diamond[/COLOR][/SIZE][/URL] [IMG]http://www.cointalk.com/images/statusicon/user_offline.gif[/IMG] [/TD] [TD="width: 100%"] [/TD] [TD]Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 1,653 [/TD] [/TR] [/TABLE] [/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD="class: alt1"][IMG]http://www.cointalk.com/images/icons/icon1.gif[/IMG] [HR][/HR]It's an obvious squeeze job. The incuse design elements cross Lincoln's face, which is not possible considering how high the relief is in this area. You'll also note that some of the incuse elements invade the design rim, which is also not possible in a clash. All other sources of incuse, mirror-image design elements (e.g., brockage, flipped over dropped filling) are also inadmissable. ICG got it hysterically wrong. This will be my only comment on this vandalized coin. -- Mike Diamond ]] I don't know whether to believe someone or not on anything when they do things like this. Mike you and me and everyone else can make a mistake from time to time. Just like that time I sent you that 2005 Minnesota DDR #1 state quarter and you referred to it as a die chip and sent it back to me. thanks to Potter , Wexler , and a few others plus me finally found out what it was and where the extra tree came from on the die. I could have spent those coins and I had over a hundred of them but I hung in there with them and now I'm thankful I kept them. this showed me that if you have a strong feeling about something to hang in there and stick to your belief.. here is another paragraph BJ wrote about this coin. Bj wrote; Normally a clashing of the dies is caught by the press operator.When it does occur ,the coin press is shut down and the dies and inspected for damage.if the obverse die is damaged to bad , it will be abraided to remove the clash marks and then put back into service .more often though ,, the obverse die is retired after a die clash,expessialy one of this magnitude.I find it odd that reverse die did not show even a hint of this die clash.Was it changed out ? it may have been ... but why did they not change the obverse die as well ? this is a inconsistency , but it may have happened . This is my coin and I do not see why anyone else should worry about it . If anyone loses any money on this coin it will be me and money is no object to me. I can do whatever I want to with it and it will not hurt anyone. Like I told all of you many times this may be something other than a clashed die and you folks got hung up on a clashed die. if this coin was a squeeze or hammer job coin it would be out off round and larger in diameter and the reverse side should show at least a tiny bit of damage. [/TD] [/TR] [/TABLE][/QUOTE]
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