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<p>[QUOTE="V. Kurt Bellman, post: 3106571, member: 71723"]I agree with pretty much all that. The "problem" with Whitman books for me ONLY occurs when someone wants to ascribe ANA's imprimatur to them. Yes, Whitman IS now the ANA's Official Supplies provider (Makes it hard to get Dansco stuff at summer ANA shows - jus' sayin'.) but for lack of a more precise term, Whitman books tend to be "consumer" oriented. When the ANA wants to really put their "stamp of approval" on educational materials, they self-publish, as they did with the work I referenced above.</p><p><br /></p><p>It probably shouldn't be this way, but it mostly is - there is a "soft wall" between truly specialist material and consumer/collector material. It is lessening some. The specialty so-called Red Books (the ones on a single series) or the MegaRed are "bridge publications". But the real high end stuff doesn't have enough of an audience for Whitman to handle it. Even the modernized Overton volume isn't under their umbrella, and Bust Halves do have quite a following. And its not even necessary to mention their lack of "world" material. My Swiss coin guide was written in Switzerland. Ditto the U.K. (Spink), and France, and even Russia. I had to teach myself the Russian alphabet. I get to Kolbe and Fanning auctions from time to time, also.</p><p><br /></p><p>You're right, Mike. The first words out of Brain Silliman's mouth when I took his grading course at Orlando (being offered again in Philly in August) WAS, "In mint state coins, we don't so much 'grade' them as 'appraise' them." He then spent over 15 hours over two days teaching us how to do that. He passed out the Whitman so-called "ANA Standards" book [7th edition], and within 5 minutes, we ignored it.</p><p><br /></p><p>Is that "fair" to homebound collectors who never get to major shows? I guess not, but sometimes learning one's craft well requires the expense of time and airfare. And not just to sleep outside on damp concrete to wait in line for an overpriced oversold piece of gold either.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="V. Kurt Bellman, post: 3106571, member: 71723"]I agree with pretty much all that. The "problem" with Whitman books for me ONLY occurs when someone wants to ascribe ANA's imprimatur to them. Yes, Whitman IS now the ANA's Official Supplies provider (Makes it hard to get Dansco stuff at summer ANA shows - jus' sayin'.) but for lack of a more precise term, Whitman books tend to be "consumer" oriented. When the ANA wants to really put their "stamp of approval" on educational materials, they self-publish, as they did with the work I referenced above. It probably shouldn't be this way, but it mostly is - there is a "soft wall" between truly specialist material and consumer/collector material. It is lessening some. The specialty so-called Red Books (the ones on a single series) or the MegaRed are "bridge publications". But the real high end stuff doesn't have enough of an audience for Whitman to handle it. Even the modernized Overton volume isn't under their umbrella, and Bust Halves do have quite a following. And its not even necessary to mention their lack of "world" material. My Swiss coin guide was written in Switzerland. Ditto the U.K. (Spink), and France, and even Russia. I had to teach myself the Russian alphabet. I get to Kolbe and Fanning auctions from time to time, also. You're right, Mike. The first words out of Brain Silliman's mouth when I took his grading course at Orlando (being offered again in Philly in August) WAS, "In mint state coins, we don't so much 'grade' them as 'appraise' them." He then spent over 15 hours over two days teaching us how to do that. He passed out the Whitman so-called "ANA Standards" book [7th edition], and within 5 minutes, we ignored it. Is that "fair" to homebound collectors who never get to major shows? I guess not, but sometimes learning one's craft well requires the expense of time and airfare. And not just to sleep outside on damp concrete to wait in line for an overpriced oversold piece of gold either.[/QUOTE]
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