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<p>[QUOTE="Insider, post: 3102818, member: 24314"]V. Kurt Bellman, posted: "You mean like archeological digs are? I take formal grading courses and use THAT information. I don’t become a slave to books - ANY book. Not even the book our illustrious (as if..) chief moderator insists is something that the book itself insists it isn’t. <img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie11" alt=":rolleyes:" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" /><img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie11" alt=":rolleyes:" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" /><img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie11" alt=":rolleyes:" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" /> That’s not just WRONG, it’s a little bit insane."</p><p><br /></p><p><img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie5" alt=":confused:" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" /> I think what you are saying is that all books are just a guide - even the ones that are out of date and don't reflect the standards of today, correct?</p><p><br /></p><p>Pickin and Grinin, posted: "..., and not sure why it was even sent in for grading. The only good thing is, I gave 50 cents plus tax. And have used it as an example in my collection." <span style="color: #5900b3">Collectors like/collect different things. They also have different amounts of money. I've learned to accept it. This particular coin is mo worthy of being graded than the VF 1942 10c, 1956-d 1c in XF brown, 1921 Morgan in F, and on and on...sent in last week. </span></p><p><br /></p><p>"<b>Grading coins takes time, it takes a lot of effort</b>, reading, and looking at a lot of coins. This seems more like gradeflation than an actual effort to properly grade the coin. This type of grading isn't benefitting anyone in the hobby except the grading company."</p><p><br /></p><p><span style="color: #5900b3">No, it doesn't. Your post sounds very astute and it applies to beginners; yet I'm pretty sure you have developed your skills enough so that your quote does not apply to you.</span> </p><p><br /></p><p>"If ICG would have put MS64 on this coin I would feel that it is a little excessive, but understandable given the type of grading that plagues our market. A 66 is just plain ridiculous. This is not a gem coin." </p><p><br /></p><p><span style="color: #5900b3">We all can agree on that.</span> </p><p><br /></p><p>"I can only imagine that if the company wanted to create in image for the future? There can be 0 Snarking at the market currently available to them, If we keep trying to push away our future collectors, we as a whole could eliminate the future of our coinage. Just as the times have passed, coinage could pass. It is our job to create our future. Therefore figuring that this is worthless coinage, it should have been graded with integrity, and that is what creates an image."</p><p><br /></p><p><span style="color: #5900b3">I agree with you. Grading should be strict for everything. At on time 1853 25c were common change. They would have been treated as modern junk also with no regard to the future. Who would have thought that a 1999 quarter would be so old already? Unfortunately, you are bucking human nature. The coin you posted may have been graded by a rookie for a TV promotion as TPGS don't like to put their best folks grading what they perceive as "modern junk." </span> </p><p><br /></p><p>"I guess that what I am saying is there could be a market for these coins, Tomorrow is our future." </p><p><br /></p><p><span style="color: #5900b3">So true but we'll be long gone.</span> <img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie1" alt=":)" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" />[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="Insider, post: 3102818, member: 24314"]V. Kurt Bellman, posted: "You mean like archeological digs are? I take formal grading courses and use THAT information. I don’t become a slave to books - ANY book. Not even the book our illustrious (as if..) chief moderator insists is something that the book itself insists it isn’t. :rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes: That’s not just WRONG, it’s a little bit insane." :confused: I think what you are saying is that all books are just a guide - even the ones that are out of date and don't reflect the standards of today, correct? Pickin and Grinin, posted: "..., and not sure why it was even sent in for grading. The only good thing is, I gave 50 cents plus tax. And have used it as an example in my collection." [COLOR=#5900b3]Collectors like/collect different things. They also have different amounts of money. I've learned to accept it. This particular coin is mo worthy of being graded than the VF 1942 10c, 1956-d 1c in XF brown, 1921 Morgan in F, and on and on...sent in last week. [/COLOR] "[B]Grading coins takes time, it takes a lot of effort[/B], reading, and looking at a lot of coins. This seems more like gradeflation than an actual effort to properly grade the coin. This type of grading isn't benefitting anyone in the hobby except the grading company." [COLOR=#5900b3]No, it doesn't. Your post sounds very astute and it applies to beginners; yet I'm pretty sure you have developed your skills enough so that your quote does not apply to you.[/COLOR] "If ICG would have put MS64 on this coin I would feel that it is a little excessive, but understandable given the type of grading that plagues our market. A 66 is just plain ridiculous. This is not a gem coin." [COLOR=#5900b3]We all can agree on that.[/COLOR] "I can only imagine that if the company wanted to create in image for the future? There can be 0 Snarking at the market currently available to them, If we keep trying to push away our future collectors, we as a whole could eliminate the future of our coinage. Just as the times have passed, coinage could pass. It is our job to create our future. Therefore figuring that this is worthless coinage, it should have been graded with integrity, and that is what creates an image." [COLOR=#5900b3]I agree with you. Grading should be strict for everything. At on time 1853 25c were common change. They would have been treated as modern junk also with no regard to the future. Who would have thought that a 1999 quarter would be so old already? Unfortunately, you are bucking human nature. The coin you posted may have been graded by a rookie for a TV promotion as TPGS don't like to put their best folks grading what they perceive as "modern junk." [/COLOR] "I guess that what I am saying is there could be a market for these coins, Tomorrow is our future." [COLOR=#5900b3]So true but we'll be long gone.[/COLOR] :)[/QUOTE]
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